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[Tlhingan-hol] More new words from Maltz
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Agnieszka Solska)
Thu Jan 26 12:02:03 2012
From: Agnieszka Solska <agnpau1@hotmail.com>
To: tlhIngan Hol <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>, tlhIngan Hol mailing list
<tlhingan-hol@stodi.digitalkingdom.org>
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 17:01:44 +0000
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qen jIDo'qu': jInmolwIj vIrInmoHmeH muboQ matlh 'ej latlh mu'mey chu' 'ang.=
=20
SIbI' tlhIHvaD mu'meyvam vI'angbe'mo' jItlhIj 'ach qen law'qu' yInwIj wanI'=
mey.=20
jIvumqu'=2C jIlengqu' (Shanghai vISuchmeH 'eb vIjon!): jabbI'IDghomvam vIbu=
SlaHbe'.
'ISqu'
------------------------------------
From: Marc Okrand [...]
Sent: Monday=2C January 02=2C 2012 5:03:07 AM
To: Agnieszka Solska (agnpau1@hotmail.com)
Agnieszka --
Happy New Year!
It was great seeing you in Germany. I thought the qepHom was a pretty impre=
ssive
event -- lots of people=2C lots of interest and enthusiasm. =20
[...]
So here are the four --
(1) "flavor" or "taste" (nouns) is wejwa'.
(2) "be indirect=2C be roundabout=2C be devious" is pIQHa'. So pIQ would b=
e=20
"be direct."
(3) For "double agent=2C" Maltz liked the slang expression jey'naS ghoqwI' =
=20
(literally=2C "double-headed ax spy"). He said the non-slang term 'o'wen=20
could also be used for "double agent=2C" but its meaning is a bit broader -=
-=20
it's used to refer to someone (or something) of ambiguous status. As Maltz=
=20
put it=2C "You're not quite sure if it's this or that. You think it's one=20
thing=2C and it may be=2C but it may be another."=20
(4) "hole" (like a hole in the ground) is QemjIq. This can also be used=20
for the hollow in a tree. qung=2C the word for "hole in a musical instrume=
nt=2C"=20
can't be used for a hole in the ground=2C but it could be used for a bullet=
=20
hole or a hole in a shirt (including buttonholes=2C moth holes=2C accidenta=
l=20
rips=2C etc.) or a hole in the roof. You can fill (teb) a QemjIq=2C but no=
t=20
a qung.=20
=20
[...]
- Marc
------------------------------------
From: Marc Okrand [...]
Sent: Sunday=2C January 15=2C 2012 2:38:52 AM
To: Agnieszka Solska (agnpau1@hotmail.com)
Agnieszka --
Maltz managed to come up with a few more words [...]
ditch (n) is taSman
be deep (v) is jaQ (so "shallow" would be jaQHa' -- but there may be anot=
her=20
word for that he wasn't telling me)
be straight (v) is wan (so "crooked" or "bent" would be wanHa')
model=2C example=2C pattern (n) is ghantoH (Maltz is assuming this refers =
to=20
something one copies or refers to in making things -- or something along=20
those lines)
That's it so far. I'll keep prodding.
[...]
- Marc
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SKI 'ISqu' presents more new words recently revealed by Maltz=20
and apologizes for taking a long time to disclose them to the list. =
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qen jIDo'qu': jInmolwIj vIrInmoHmeH muboQ matlh 'ej latlh mu'mey chu' 'ang.=
<br>SIbI' tlhIHvaD mu'meyvam vI'angbe'mo' jItlhIj 'ach qen law'qu' yInwIj =
wanI'mey. <br>jIvumqu'=2C jIlengqu' (Shanghai vISuchmeH 'eb vIjon!): jabbI'=
IDghomvam vIbuSlaHbe'.<br><br>'ISqu'<br><br>-------------------------------=
-----<br><br>From: =3B =3B  =3BMarc Okrand [...]<br>Sent: =
=3B =3B  =3BMonday=2C January 02=2C 2012 5:03:07 AM<br>To:  =3B=
 =3B  =3BAgnieszka Solska (agnpau1@hotmail.com)<br><br>Agnieszka --=
<br><br>Happy New Year!<br><br>It was great seeing you in Germany. I though=
t the qepHom was a pretty impressive<br>event -- lots of people=2C lots of =
interest and enthusiasm.  =3B<br>[...]<br><br>So here are the four --<b=
r><br>(1) "flavor" or "taste" (nouns) is wejwa'.<br><br>(2) "be indirect=2C=
be roundabout=2C be devious" is pIQHa'. =3B So pIQ would be <br>"be di=
rect."<br><br>(3) For "double agent=2C" Maltz liked the slang expression je=
y'naS ghoqwI'  =3B<br>(literally=2C "double-headed ax spy"). =3B He=
said the non-slang term 'o'wen <br>could also be used for "double agent=2C=
" but its meaning is a bit broader -- <br>it's used to refer to someone (or=
something) of ambiguous status. =3B As Maltz <br>put it=2C "You're not=
quite sure if it's this or that. You think it's one <br>thing=2C and it ma=
y be=2C but it may be another." <br><br>(4) "hole" (like a hole in the grou=
nd) is QemjIq. =3B This can also be used <br>for the hollow in a tree.&=
nbsp=3B qung=2C the word for "hole in a musical instrument=2C" <br>can't be=
used for a hole in the ground=2C but it could be used for a bullet <br>hol=
e or a hole in a shirt (including buttonholes=2C moth holes=2C accidental <=
br>rips=2C etc.) or a hole in the roof. =3B You can fill (teb) a QemjIq=
=2C but not <br>a qung. <br> =3B<br>[...]<br><br> =3B- Marc<br><br>=
------------------------------------<br><br>From: =3B =3B  =3BM=
arc Okrand [...]<br>Sent: =3B =3B  =3BSunday=2C January 15=2C 2=
012 2:38:52 AM<br>To:  =3B =3B  =3BAgnieszka Solska (agnpau1@ho=
tmail.com)<br><br><br>Agnieszka --<br><br>Maltz managed to come up with a f=
ew more words [...]<br><br><br>ditch (n) is taSman<br><br>be deep (v) is ja=
Q =3B (so "shallow" would be jaQHa' =3B -- but there may be another=
<br>word for that he wasn't telling me)<br><br>be straight (v) is wan =
=3B (so "crooked" or "bent" would be wanHa')<br><br>model=2C example=2C pat=
tern (n) is ghantoH =3B (Maltz is assuming this refers to <br>something=
one copies or refers to in making things -- =3B or something along <br=
>those lines)<br><br>That's it so far. =3B I'll keep prodding.<br><br>[=
...]<br><br> =3B- Marc<br><br>------------------------------------<br><=
br>SKI 'ISqu' presents more new words recently revealed by Maltz <br>and ap=
ologizes for taking a long time to disclose them to the list. </=
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