daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Rohan Fenwick - QeS 'utlh)
Sun Jan 22 21:18:47 2012
From: Rohan Fenwick - QeS 'utlh <qeslagh@hotmail.com>
To: <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 12:18:27 +1000
In-Reply-To: <CA+7zAmPb8duOBW9xezmbR3GYKpOVQ9TWc8S5j9QQNA0NYt-xFQ@mail.gmail.com>
Errors-To: tlhingan-hol-bounces@stodi.digitalkingdom.org
jIjatlhpu':
> Makes sense. If that's the case, then in order to say that you cover
> X with Y, you'd have to say {X velmeH Y vIlo'} or {Y-vaD X vIvelmoH};
mujang De'vID, jatlh:
> I think you mean {X-vaD Y vIvelmoH}?
jIH:
> Nope.
De'vID:
> *mind blown*
{{:)
> Maybe I can translate this line like so:
> It is imperative that we act now to support the Gorkon initiative, lest
> more conservative elements persuade his Empire that it is better to
> attempt a military solution and die fighting.
> ghorqon jInmol'a' wIlajnIS 'ej wInumnIS. DaH mavangbe'chugh, wo'DajvaD
> qechvam luHarmoH choHqangbe'wI'pu': SuvtaHvIS Hegh qaq law' yIn qaq
> puS.
Yep, that seems to work.
> I wonder if {pon} works the same way as {HarmoH} (i.e., {vay'vaD qech pon})?
Interesting question. My first instinct from the glosses "persuade, convince"
would be that the natural object of {pon} would be the person, but I don't
know how you could add a complement if that were true. Do we have any canon
examples?
QeS 'utlh
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