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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] qo''e' tu'bogh pagh - 'ay' loS

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (De'vID jonpIn)
Fri Jan 20 08:12:58 2012

In-Reply-To: <C305E6BD33E2654DAE1F8F403247B6A603207847637E@EVS02.ad.uchicago.edu>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 14:12:42 +0100
From: "De'vID jonpIn" <de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com>
To: tlhIngan-Hol@kli.org
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> De'vID:
> >> Dor ghu'vam'e' luDIllaHbe'bogh tlhInganpu'.
> >> boQDu': *Bill*, 'ejyo' wIpujqu'moH 'e' wIchup'a'?
>
> QeS 'utlh:
> > I don't think {wIpujqu'moH} is quite right. They're not talking about
> > weakening Starfleet - to me mothballing it implies putting it away more
> > or less completely, because it's become obsolete. Actually, what about
> > {wInotlhmoH}?

> De'vID:
>>> [...poD...]
>>  Maybe {notlhmo' ...} but I can't think of a word for "store, put in
storage".

Voragh:
> As for "store, put in storage" - consider {pol} "keep, save":
>
> nuqDaq yuch Dapol
> Where do you keep the chocolate? (TKD)
>
> vIpollaH pagh vIpolHa'laH
> I can either keep it or I can discard it. (KGT)
>
> Soj polmeH pa'
> food storage [i.e. a locker/compartment] KBoP
>
> polmeH jav QujwI' lIwmey
> 6 collectible tokens (MKE [Monopoly])
>
> The KBOP and MKE examples are apt.

I'd originally rejected {pol} because "keeping/saving" something because
it's obsolete sounded odd.  But by your examples, it looks like {pol} also
has the sense of "store".

{notlhmo' 'ejyo' wIpol 'e' wIchup'a'?}

Actually what does "mothballing" a fleet of ships really mean?  I guess the
reason I'm uncertain how to translate the Klingon is because I don't fully
understand the English.

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<p><br>
&gt; De&#39;vID:<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; Dor ghu&#39;vam&#39;e&#39; luDIllaHbe&#39;bogh tlhInganpu&#39=
;.<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; boQDu&#39;: *Bill*, &#39;ejyo&#39; wIpujqu&#39;moH &#39;e&#39=
; wIchup&#39;a&#39;?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; QeS &#39;utlh:<br>
&gt; &gt; I don&#39;t think {wIpujqu&#39;moH} is quite right. They&#39;re n=
ot talking about<br>
&gt; &gt; weakening Starfleet - to me mothballing it implies putting it awa=
y more<br>
&gt; &gt; or less completely, because it&#39;s become obsolete. Actually, w=
hat about<br>
&gt; &gt; {wInotlhmoH}?</p>
<p>&gt; De&#39;vID:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; [...poD...]<br>
&gt;&gt; =A0Maybe {notlhmo&#39; ...} but I can&#39;t think of a word for &q=
uot;store, put in storage&quot;.</p>
<p>Voragh:<br>
&gt; As for &quot;store, put in storage&quot; - consider {pol} &quot;keep, =
save&quot;:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; nuqDaq yuch Dapol<br>
&gt; Where do you keep the chocolate? (TKD)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; vIpollaH pagh vIpolHa&#39;laH<br>
&gt; I can either keep it or I can discard it. (KGT)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Soj polmeH pa&#39;<br>
&gt; food storage [i.e. a locker/compartment] KBoP<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; polmeH jav QujwI&#39; lIwmey<br>
&gt; 6 collectible tokens (MKE [Monopoly])<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; The KBOP and MKE examples are apt.</p>
<p>I&#39;d originally rejected {pol} because &quot;keeping/saving&quot; som=
ething because it&#39;s obsolete sounded odd.=A0 But by your examples, it l=
ooks like {pol} also has the sense of &quot;store&quot;.=A0 </p>
<p>{notlhmo&#39; &#39;ejyo&#39; wIpol &#39;e&#39; wIchup&#39;a&#39;?}</p>
<p>Actually what does &quot;mothballing&quot; a fleet of ships really mean?=
=A0 I guess the reason I&#39;m uncertain how to translate the Klingon is be=
cause I don&#39;t fully understand the English.</p>
<p>--<br>
De&#39;vID</p>

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