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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] qo''e' tu'bogh pagh - 'ay' wej
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Qov)
Sun Jan 15 13:26:28 2012
Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 10:21:49 -0800
To: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
From: Qov <robyn@flyingstart.ca>
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At 10:01 15/01/2012, De'vID jonpIn wrote:
>QeS 'utlh:
> > I actually think {potlhqu'nIS qepvam} captures the sense well
> here. No issue
> > with {-nIS} that I would raise, though my canon database is no help.
>
>But is it {qepvam} that needs to be important. Someone pointed out
>to me recently that {-nIS} expresses a need on the part of the subject.
I agree with that.
> Here, it's really Uhuru who requires that {qepvam} be
> important. So I'm still not entirely sure about this. Well, I can
> always change this later if I think of something better.
Type-6 suffixes express the *speaker's* feelings about the
item. {potlhqu'bej} or {potlhqu' vIneH}?
>De'vID:
> > > CHEKOV: patlh jen ghajwI'vaD neH 'oHbe''a' qepvam'e'?
> > > KIRK: naDev maHchugh Hoch, nuqDaq ghaH *Sulu*'e'?
patlh jen ghajwI' => moch or nguppu'?
>De'vID:
> > > qaSpu'DI' vaghmaH tera' DISHeymey[3] loj yInSIpchaj.
In dialogue you get to use the useful time words. Why not {vaghmaH
nem} or {vaghmaH tera' nem}?
>De'vID:
> > > 'Iqmo' Huch'e' poQbogh QI',
> >
>QeS 'utlh:
> > I'd say {QI'chaj}, just to be clear whose military's being talked about.
{Huch 'Iq natlh QI'chaj}? I'd also be tempted by jo instead of Huch.
The original is "expensive," or "costly" or the like, right?
>After considering the options, I think {qaD} is better
>here. They're not even ready to confront the problem, let alone defeat it.
:-)
I'm not following closely, just poking a few ideas that have likely
been discussed and discarded already for good reasons, sorry.
- Qov
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