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daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (De'vID jonpIn)
Thu Jan 12 04:10:25 2012
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Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 10:10:11 +0100
From: "De'vID jonpIn" <de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com>
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The monologue by Spock in this part is quite difficult. Please assist!
('ejyo' ja'meH qep pa')
KIRK: qatlh naDev maHtaH?
McCOY: chaq 'utlh patlh wISuqmo' lulop.
SCOTT: maj. qen bIQ Duj vIje'pu'.
UHURA: potlhqu'nIS qepvam[1]. 'ampaSDaq ghojmeH qep vIche' 'e' vIruchnIS.
CHEKOV: patlh jen ghajwI'vaD neH 'oHbe''a' qepvam'e'?
KIRK: naDev maHchugh Hoch, nuqDaq ghaH *Sulu*'e'?
McCOY: *Sulu* HoD'e'. Qu' ta'taH.
KIRK: nuqDaq ghaH *Spock*'e'?
boQDu': peghqu' ja'meH qepvam. be'pu' loDpu' je, ra'ghomquv DevwI'.
C in C: peleS. De'vam potlh vIja'meH ngajqu' poH. vaghmaH nem tlhIngan
wo' Qaw'lu'pu' net noH. De' naQ ja'meH, jatlhrup DIvI' Duy le'.
SPOCK: maj po. cha' wen tlhIngan maS pIraqSISDaq jorqu' vay' 'e' jIH DIvI'
Duj. tlhoy lutlhIlmo'law' 'ej yepHa'mo'law' jor. maS Qaw'lu'mo'
lamqu'choH yuQ muDchaj 'ej HeghchoHmoH[2]. qaSpu'DI' vaghmaH tera'
DISHeymey[3] loj yInSIpchaj. 'Iqmo' Huch'e' poQbogh QI', yapbe' tlhIngan
Huch jo 'ej lotvam luma'ruplaHbe'[4]. wen mutungHa'mo' vulqangan Duy'a',
maja'chuq jIH ghorqan[5] je. tlhIngan yejquv Qang ghaH. SIbI' maSutlhchoH
'e' chup.
CARTWRIGHT: nuq wISutlh?
[1] - Can anyone think of a better way to say "this had better be good"?
Can a {qep} have a need (be the subject of a verb with {-nIS})? How can I
express "I'm supposed to be (doing something)"?
I was thinking of recasting this entirely: {potlhqu'be'chugh qepvam,
'ampaSDaq ghojmeH qep vIche'nIS}.
[2] - TKD lists {HeghmoH} as "be fatal". Is {HeghmoHchoH} acceptable to
people, or should it be {HeghchoHmoH}? {HeghchoHmoH} sounds like "it
causes something to begin to die", not "it begins to cause death, it begins
to be fatal". Do I need to be explicit about what is killing whom?
[3] - Qov ran into this problem earlier: how to say "an approximate
number". I stuck the {-Hey} on the {DIS}, but I really want it on the
{vaghmaH}.
[4] - {Suv} is too literal here, but {ma'} perhaps doesn't have this sense.
[5] - Gorkon -- do we have a canon spelling of his name?
> [Starfleet briefing room]
>
> KIRK: What are we doing here?
> McCOY: Maybe they're throwing us a retirement party.
> SCOTT: That suits me. I've just bought a boat.
> UHURA: This had better be good. I'm supposed to be chairing a seminar
> at the Academy.
> CHEKOV: Isn't this just for top brass?
> KIRK: If we're all here, where's Sulu?
> McCoy: Captain Sulu. ...On assignment.
> KIRK: Where's Spock?
> AIDE-DE-CAMP: This briefing is classified. Ladies and Gentlemen, the
C-in-C.
> C in C: As you were. I'll break this information down succinctly. The
> Klingon Empire has roughly fifty years of life left. ...For full
> details, I am turning this briefing over to Federation Special Envoy.
> SPOCK: Good morning. Two months ago a Federation starship monitored an
> explosion on the Klingon moon Praxis. We believe it was caused by
> over-mining and insufficient safety precautions. The moon's decimation
> means a deadly pollution of their ozone. They will have depleted their
> supply of oxygen in approximately fifty Earth years. Due to their
> enormous military budget, the Klingon economy does not have the
> resources to combat this catastrophe. Last month, at the behest of the
> Vulcan Ambassador I opened a dialogue with Gorkon, Chancellor of the
> Klingon High Council. He proposes to commence negotiations at once.
> CARTWRIGHT: Negotiations for what?
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<p>The monologue by Spock in this part is quite difficult.=A0 Please assist=
!</p>
<p>('ejyo' ja'meH qep pa')</p>
<p>KIRK: qatlh naDev maHtaH?<br>
McCOY: chaq 'utlh patlh wISuqmo' lulop.<br>
SCOTT: maj.=A0 qen bIQ Duj vIje'pu'.<br>
UHURA: potlhqu'nIS qepvam[1].=A0 'ampaSDaq ghojmeH qep vIche' &=
#39;e' vIruchnIS.<br>
CHEKOV: patlh jen ghajwI'vaD neH 'oHbe''a' qepvam'e=
'?<br>
KIRK: naDev maHchugh Hoch, nuqDaq ghaH *Sulu*'e'?<br>
McCOY: *Sulu* HoD'e'.=A0 Qu' ta'taH.<br>
KIRK: nuqDaq ghaH *Spock*'e'?<br>
boQDu': peghqu' ja'meH qepvam.=A0 be'pu' loDpu' je,=
ra'ghomquv DevwI'.<br>
C in C: peleS.=A0 De'vam potlh vIja'meH ngajqu' poH.=A0 vaghmaH=
nem tlhIngan wo' Qaw'lu'pu' net noH.=A0 De' naQ ja'=
;meH, jatlhrup DIvI' Duy le'.<br>
SPOCK: maj po.=A0 cha' wen tlhIngan maS pIraqSISDaq jorqu' vay'=
'e' jIH DIvI' Duj.=A0 tlhoy lutlhIlmo'law' 'ej yep=
Ha'mo'law' jor.=A0 maS Qaw'lu'mo' lamqu'choH yu=
Q muDchaj 'ej HeghchoHmoH[2].=A0 qaSpu'DI' vaghmaH tera' DI=
SHeymey[3] loj yInSIpchaj.=A0 'Iqmo' Huch'e' poQbogh QI'=
;, yapbe' tlhIngan Huch jo 'ej lotvam luma'ruplaHbe'[4].=A0=
wen mutungHa'mo' vulqangan Duy'a', maja'chuq jIH ghorq=
an[5] je.=A0 tlhIngan yejquv Qang ghaH.=A0 SIbI' maSutlhchoH 'e'=
; chup.<br>
CARTWRIGHT: nuq wISutlh?</p>
<p>[1] - Can anyone think of a better way to say "this had better be g=
ood"?=A0 Can a {qep} have a need (be the subject of a verb with {-nIS}=
)?=A0 How can I express "I'm supposed to be (doing something)"=
;?<br>
I was thinking of recasting this entirely: {potlhqu'be'chugh qepvam=
, 'ampaSDaq ghojmeH qep vIche'nIS}.<br>
[2] - TKD lists {HeghmoH} as "be fatal".=A0 Is {HeghmoHchoH} acce=
ptable to people, or should it be {HeghchoHmoH}?=A0 {HeghchoHmoH} sounds li=
ke "it causes something to begin to die", not "it begins to =
cause death, it begins to be fatal".=A0 Do I need to be explicit about=
what is killing whom?<br>
[3] - Qov ran into this problem earlier: how to say "an approximate nu=
mber".=A0 I stuck the {-Hey} on the {DIS}, but I really want it on the=
{vaghmaH}.<br>
[4] - {Suv} is too literal here, but {ma'} perhaps doesn't have thi=
s sense.<br>
[5] - Gorkon -- do we have a canon spelling of his name?</p>
<p>> [Starfleet briefing room]<br>
><br>
> KIRK: What are we doing here?<br>
> McCOY: Maybe they're throwing us a retirement party.<br>
> SCOTT: That suits me. I've just bought a boat.<br>
> UHURA: This had better be good. I'm supposed to be chairing a semi=
nar<br>
> at the Academy.<br>
> CHEKOV: Isn't this just for top brass?<br>
> KIRK: If we're all here, where's Sulu?<br>
> McCoy: Captain Sulu. ...On assignment.<br>
> KIRK: Where's Spock?<br>
> AIDE-DE-CAMP: This briefing is classified. Ladies and Gentlemen, the C=
-in-C.<br>
> C in C: As you were. I'll break this information down succinctly. =
The<br>
> Klingon Empire has roughly fifty years of life left. ...For full<br>
> details, I am turning this briefing over to Federation Special Envoy.<=
br>
> SPOCK: Good morning. Two months ago a Federation starship monitored an=
<br>
> explosion on the Klingon moon Praxis. We believe it was caused by<br>
> over-mining and insufficient safety precautions. The moon's decima=
tion<br>
> means a deadly pollution of their ozone. They will have depleted their=
<br>
> supply of oxygen in approximately fifty Earth years. Due to their<br>
> enormous military budget, the Klingon economy does not have the<br>
> resources to combat this catastrophe. Last month, at the behest of the=
<br>
> Vulcan Ambassador I opened a dialogue with Gorkon, Chancellor of the<b=
r>
> Klingon High Council. He proposes to commence negotiations at once.<br=
>
> CARTWRIGHT: Negotiations for what?</p>
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