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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] The Dhammapada: A Klingon Translation, verses 1-2
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Josh Badgley)
Tue Dec 20 11:24:31 2011
From: Josh Badgley <joshbadgley@hotmail.com>
To: KLI <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 10:24:09 -0600
In-Reply-To: <SNT106-W36873B6D8CA27BD0CDA0E6A1A40@phx.gbl>
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And I just realized it should be
Dutlha' bep =2Cnot bep Dutlha'
Dutlha' Qapla'=2C not Qapla' Dutlha'
DopDaq qul yIchenmoH QobDI' ghu'
-- jhb
From: joshbadgley@hotmail.com
To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
Date: Tue=2C 20 Dec 2011 10:20:09 -0600
Subject: [Tlhingan-hol] The Dhammapada: A Klingon Translation=2C verses 1-2
jIvHa'wI' Sov'a' He (The Dhammapada) vImughchoHpu'. qup He (Theravada) vIpa=
bmo' potlhqu' paqHomvam 'e' vIHar. naDev cha' tlheghmey (verses?) tu'lu'.=
=20
The English translations are mine. I have done my very best to translate t=
he original Pali into Klingon and then to provide some English so that=2C i=
n the likely event my Klingon stinks=2C those of you who are more skillled =
will know what I was trying to say and can help me out=2C if you are willin=
g to do so. I am very serious about this project and would like to complet=
e a full version. I wanted to thank=20
'ISqu' for her excellent edition of the Tao Te Ching=2C which I am reading =
right now and without which I would be hopelessly lost. I have nicked the t=
erm jIvHa'wI' from her and am using it for "Buddha". Even though "Dhammapad=
a" really means something like "Path of Dhamma"=2C I am calling it "The Bud=
dha's Path of Wisdom" or jIvHa'wI' Sov'a' He
Chapter
1
Pairs
'ay'
wa'=20
chang'engmey
1
yab wanI'mey nung yab=2C
che' yab=2C
chenmoH yab.
qaltaHvIS yab bIjatlhchugh
qoj bIvangchugh=2C
vaj bep Dutlha'
rur tangqa' qam tlha'bogh
rutlh'e'
Mind precedes mental
phenomena=2C
Mind rules them=2C mind
creates them.
If you speak or act while
the mind is corrupted
Then agony follows you
Like the wheel that
follows the foot of the ox
2
yab wanI'mey nung yab=2C
che' yab=2C
chenmoH yab.
wovtaHvIS yab bIjatlhchugh
qoj bIvangchugh=2C
vaj Qapla' Dutlha'
rur mejbe'bogh QIb
Mind precedes mental
phenomena=2C
Mind rules them=2C mind
creates them.
If you speak or act while
the mind is bright=2C
Then success follows you
Like a shadow that does
not depart.
-- jhb
=20
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tmail.com<br>To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org<br>Date: Tue=2C 20 Dec 2011 10:20:09 =
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<p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in" align=3D"left"><font style=3D"" face=3D"Cour=
ier New">jIvHa'wI' Sov'a' He (The Dhammapada) vImughchoHpu'. qup He (Therav=
ada) vIpabmo' potlhqu' paqHomvam 'e' vIHar. =3B naDev cha' tlheghmey (v=
erses?) tu'lu'. </font><font style=3D"" face=3D"Courier New"><br></font></p=
><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in" align=3D"left"><font style=3D"" face=3D"Cou=
rier New"><br></font></p><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in" align=3D"left"><fon=
t style=3D"" face=3D"Courier New">The English translations are mine. =
=3B I have done my very best to translate the original Pali into Klingon an=
d then to provide some English so that=2C in the likely event my Klingon st=
inks=2C those of you who are more skillled will know what I was trying to s=
ay and can help me out=2C if you are willing to do so. =3B I am very se=
rious about this project and would like to complete a full version. =3B=
I wanted to thank </font><font style=3D"" face=3D"Courier New"><br></font>=
</p><font style=3D"" face=3D"Courier New">'ISqu' for her excellent edition =
of the Tao Te Ching=2C which I am reading right now and without which I wou=
ld be hopelessly lost. I have nicked the term </font><font style=3D"" face=
=3D"Courier New">jIvHa'wI'<i> </i></font><font style=3D"" face=3D"Courier N=
ew">from her and am using it for "Buddha". </font><font style=3D"" face=3D"=
Courier New">Even though "Dhammapada" really means something like "Path of =
Dhamma"=2C I am calling it "The Buddha's Path of Wisdom</font><font style=
=3D"" face=3D"Courier New">" or jIvHa'wI' Sov'a' He</font><b><br></b><font =
style=3D"" face=3D"Courier New"><br>Chapter
1</font><div align=3D"left"><font style=3D"font-size:10pt" face=3D"Courier =
New" size=3D"2">
</font></div><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in" align=3D"left"><font style=3D"f=
ont-size:10pt" face=3D"Courier New" size=3D"2">Pairs</font></p><div align=
=3D"left"><font style=3D"font-size:10pt" face=3D"Courier New" size=3D"2">
</font></div><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in" align=3D"left"><font style=3D"f=
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er New" size=3D"2">
</font></div><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in" align=3D"left"><font style=3D"f=
ont-size:10pt" face=3D"Courier New" size=3D"2">'ay'
wa' </font>
</p><div align=3D"left"><font style=3D"font-size:10pt" face=3D"Courier New"=
size=3D"2">
</font></div><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in" align=3D"left"><font style=3D"f=
ont-size:10pt" face=3D"Courier New" size=3D"2">chang'engmey</font></p><div =
align=3D"left"><font style=3D"font-size:10pt" face=3D"Courier New" size=3D"=
2">
</font></div><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in" align=3D"left"><font style=3D"f=
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nt-size:10pt" size=3D"2">
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er New" size=3D"2">
</font></div><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in" align=3D"left"><font style=3D"f=
ont-size:10pt" face=3D"Courier New" size=3D"2">1</font></p><div align=3D"le=
ft"><font style=3D"font-size:10pt" face=3D"Courier New" size=3D"2">
</font></div><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in" align=3D"left"><font style=3D"f=
ont-size:10pt" face=3D"Courier New" size=3D"2"><br></font><font style=3D"fo=
nt-size:10pt" size=3D"2">
</font></p><div align=3D"left"><font style=3D"font-size:10pt" face=3D"Couri=
er New" size=3D"2">
</font></div><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in" align=3D"left"><font style=3D"f=
ont-size:10pt" face=3D"Courier New" size=3D"2">yab wanI'mey nung yab=2C</fo=
nt></p><div align=3D"left"><font style=3D"font-size:10pt" face=3D"Courier N=
ew" size=3D"2">
</font></div><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in" align=3D"left"><font style=3D"f=
ont-size:10pt" face=3D"Courier New" size=3D"2">che' yab=2C</font></p><div a=
lign=3D"left"><font style=3D"font-size:10pt" face=3D"Courier New" size=3D"2=
">
</font></div><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in" align=3D"left"><font style=3D"f=
ont-size:10pt" face=3D"Courier New" size=3D"2">chenmoH yab.</font></p><div =
align=3D"left"><font style=3D"font-size:10pt" face=3D"Courier New" size=3D"=
2">
</font></div><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in" align=3D"left"><font style=3D"f=
ont-size:10pt" face=3D"Courier New" size=3D"2">qaltaHvIS yab bIjatlhchugh
qoj bIvangchugh=2C</font></p><div align=3D"left"><font style=3D"font-size:1=
0pt" face=3D"Courier New" size=3D"2">
</font></div><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in" align=3D"left"><font style=3D"f=
ont-size:10pt" face=3D"Courier New" size=3D"2">vaj bep Dutlha'</font></p><d=
iv align=3D"left"><font style=3D"font-size:10pt" face=3D"Courier New" size=
=3D"2">
</font></div><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in" align=3D"left"><font style=3D"f=
ont-size:10pt" face=3D"Courier New" size=3D"2">rur tangqa' qam tlha'bogh
rutlh'e'</font></p><div align=3D"left"><font style=3D"font-size:10pt" face=
=3D"Courier New" size=3D"2">
</font></div><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in" align=3D"left"><font style=3D"f=
ont-size:10pt" face=3D"Courier New" size=3D"2"><br></font><font style=3D"fo=
nt-size:10pt" size=3D"2">
</font></p><div align=3D"left"><font style=3D"font-size:10pt" face=3D"Couri=
er New" size=3D"2">
</font></div><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in" align=3D"left"><font style=3D"f=
ont-size:10pt" face=3D"Courier New" size=3D"2">Mind precedes mental
phenomena=2C</font></p><div align=3D"left"><font style=3D"font-size:10pt" f=
ace=3D"Courier New" size=3D"2">
</font></div><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in" align=3D"left"><font style=3D"f=
ont-size:10pt" face=3D"Courier New" size=3D"2">Mind rules them=2C mind
creates them.</font></p><div align=3D"left"><font style=3D"font-size:10pt" =
face=3D"Courier New" size=3D"2">
</font></div><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in" align=3D"left"><font style=3D"f=
ont-size:10pt" face=3D"Courier New" size=3D"2">If you speak or act while
the mind is corrupted</font></p><div align=3D"left"><font style=3D"font-siz=
e:10pt" face=3D"Courier New" size=3D"2">
</font></div><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in" align=3D"left"><font style=3D"f=
ont-size:10pt" face=3D"Courier New" size=3D"2">Then agony follows you</font=
></p><div align=3D"left"><font style=3D"font-size:10pt" face=3D"Courier New=
" size=3D"2">
</font></div><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in" align=3D"left"><font style=3D"f=
ont-size:10pt" face=3D"Courier New" size=3D"2">Like the wheel that
follows the foot of the ox</font></p><div align=3D"left"><font style=3D"fon=
t-size:10pt" face=3D"Courier New" size=3D"2">
</font></div><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in" align=3D"left"><font style=3D"f=
ont-size:10pt" face=3D"Courier New" size=3D"2"><br></font><font style=3D"fo=
nt-size:10pt" size=3D"2">
</font></p><div align=3D"left"><font style=3D"font-size:10pt" face=3D"Couri=
er New" size=3D"2">
</font></div><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in" align=3D"left"><font style=3D"f=
ont-size:10pt" face=3D"Courier New" size=3D"2">2</font></p><div align=3D"le=
ft"><font style=3D"font-size:10pt" face=3D"Courier New" size=3D"2">
</font></div><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in" align=3D"left"><font style=3D"f=
ont-size:10pt" face=3D"Courier New" size=3D"2"><br></font><font style=3D"fo=
nt-size:10pt" size=3D"2">
</font></p><div align=3D"left"><font style=3D"font-size:10pt" face=3D"Couri=
er New" size=3D"2">
</font></div><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in" align=3D"left"><font style=3D"f=
ont-size:10pt" face=3D"Courier New" size=3D"2">yab wanI'mey nung yab=2C</fo=
nt></p><div align=3D"left"><font style=3D"font-size:10pt" face=3D"Courier N=
ew" size=3D"2">
</font></div><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in" align=3D"left"><font style=3D"f=
ont-size:10pt" face=3D"Courier New" size=3D"2">che' yab=2C</font></p><div a=
lign=3D"left"><font style=3D"font-size:10pt" face=3D"Courier New" size=3D"2=
">
</font></div><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in" align=3D"left"><font style=3D"f=
ont-size:10pt" face=3D"Courier New" size=3D"2">chenmoH yab.</font></p>
<p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in" align=3D"left"><font style=3D"" face=3D"Cour=
ier New">wovtaHvIS yab bIjatlhchugh
qoj bIvangchugh=2C</font></p><div align=3D"left">
</div><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in" align=3D"left"><font style=3D"" face=
=3D"Courier New">vaj Qapla' Dutlha'</font></p><div align=3D"left">
</div><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in" align=3D"left"><font style=3D"" face=
=3D"Courier New">rur mejbe'bogh QIb</font></p><div align=3D"left">
</div><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in" align=3D"left"><font style=3D"" face=
=3D"Courier New"><br></font>
</p><div align=3D"left">
</div><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in" align=3D"left"><font style=3D"" face=
=3D"Courier New">Mind precedes mental
phenomena=2C</font></p><div align=3D"left">
</div><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in" align=3D"left"><font style=3D"" face=
=3D"Courier New">Mind rules them=2C mind
creates them.</font></p><div align=3D"left">
</div><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in" align=3D"left"><font style=3D"" face=
=3D"Courier New">If you speak or act while
the mind is bright=2C</font></p><div align=3D"left">
</div><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in" align=3D"left"><font style=3D"" face=
=3D"Courier New">Then success follows you</font></p><div align=3D"left">
</div><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in" align=3D"left"><font style=3D"" face=
=3D"Courier New">Like a shadow that does
not depart.</font></p><div align=3D"left">
</div><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in" align=3D"left"><font style=3D"" face=
=3D"Courier New"><br></font>
</p><div align=3D"left"><font style=3D"" face=3D"Courier New"><br></font><f=
ont style=3D"" face=3D"Courier New"><br></font></div><br><font style=3D"" f=
ace=3D"Courier New"><br>-- jhb<br></font> </div>
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