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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Noun cases

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Qov)
Sun Dec 4 12:36:54 2011

Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2011 09:30:39 -0800
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All kinds of languages with little or no Latin ancestry have been 
harshly mashed into that mould because someone sometime around the 
13th century wrote a Latin grammar that became THE standard for not 
only all subsequent Latin grammars but all grammars of all languages 
compiled ever after. It's the reason people object to English split 
infinitives, for example.

So Klingon wouldn't follow such rules but a linguist compiling a 
language could easily have deliberately defied future attempts to put 
Klingon in those boxes.

- Qov

At 16:07 28/11/2011, Noah Bogart wrote:
>Why would Klingon follow any sort of rules or models followed in Latin?
>
>On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 7:03 PM, Lucifuge Rofocale 
><<mailto:fiat_knox@yahoo.co.uk>fiat_knox@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > > Do you think that Marc Okrand may have deliberately designed 
> the language to break the convention of
> > > noun cases?
>
> > What convention?
>
>The convention that nouns have to have recognisable declensions, 
>following the model of Latin.

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All kinds of languages with little or no Latin ancestry have been harshly
mashed into that mould because someone sometime around the 13th century
wrote a Latin grammar that became THE standard for not only all
subsequent Latin grammars but all grammars of all languages compiled ever
after. It's the reason people object to English split infinitives, for
example.<br><br>
So Klingon wouldn't follow such rules but a linguist compiling a language
could easily have deliberately defied future attempts to put Klingon in
those boxes.<br><br>
- Qov<br><br>
At 16:07 28/11/2011, Noah Bogart wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Why would Klingon follow any
sort of rules or models followed in Latin?<br><br>
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 7:03 PM, Lucifuge Rofocale
&lt;<a href="mailto:fiat_knox@yahoo.co.uk">fiat_knox@yahoo.co.uk</a>&gt;
wrote:<br>

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<dd>&gt; &gt; Do you think that Marc Okrand may have deliberately
designed the language to break the convention of <br>

<dd>&gt; &gt; noun cases?<br><br>

<dd>&gt; What convention?<br><br>

<dd>The convention that nouns have to have recognisable declensions,
following the model of Latin.
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