[90960] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: [Tlhingan-hol] -qH- vs. -Q-
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Agnieszka Solska)
Sun Nov 27 13:17:39 2011
From: Agnieszka Solska <agnpau1@hotmail.com>
To: tlhIngan Hol mailing list <tlhingan-hol@stodi.digitalkingdom.org>
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 18:17:23 +0000
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Philip:
>I think one could still make a distinction
>between a sequence of plosive + fricative on the one hand, and
>affricate on the other hand. (Though for such a distinction to be
>phonemic, i.e. to be able to cause a difference in meaning, is rare,
>to my knowledge. A notable counterexample is Polish, which
>distinguishes, for example, between _czy_ [t_s`1 =3D t???] "whether",
>with affricate, and _trzy_ [ts`1 =3D t??] "three", with stop+fricative.
>Ask 'ISqu' to pronounce the pair for you when you meet her.)
lugh Philip. nIbbe' "czy" "trzy" je 'ach rurqu'chuq. motlh novpu' mISmoH.
"czy" jatlhmeH [chI] jatlhlu'.
"trzy" jatlhmeH [tSI] jatlhlu'.
neHchugh vay' maghomDI' mu'meyvam vIjatlhlaH.
>do you pronounce {DaqHom} and {DaQom} differently? (Ignoring
>the stress difference.) =
I believe I do (though I could be mistaken in my beliefs:) )
- I make an abrupt release after [q] before moving on to produce [H]
=A0 in [Q] the only release I make comes after [Q] and it is relatively slow
- I try to make my [q] uvular and my [H] velar (whether I succeed is a diff=
erent story)
- In the closed syllable {Daq} my [a] is shorter than in the open syllable =
{Da}.
'ISqu'
=
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