[90529] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Eurotalk - New Specialism - Time
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Noah Bogart)
Mon Nov 7 10:36:52 2011
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Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 10:36:33 -0500
From: Noah Bogart <nbtheduke@gmail.com>
To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
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What happened to Klingon time being counted from dawn-to-dawn? Is this just
the Klingon time-keeping words being transposed 6 hours earlier than they
normally run, or is it now a retcon, or do they actually have a totally
different system of counting time and what we have here is a translation of
human time?
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Philip Newton <philip.newton@gmail.com>wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 00:34, Adm qe'San <qeSan@btinternet.com> wrote:
> > Five past five (5:05)a.m. - vaghvatlh vagh rep
> > 5:05 p.m. (17:05) - wa'maH Sochvatlh vagh rep
>
> On the original CD, the Latin script text had a different wording:
> {vagh pagh vagh rep}. Presumably, this is an earlier (and not canon)
> version. The sound file and the pIqaD agree with the newer-style
> wording.
>
> Other spelling differences include:
>
> * consistent space before {vatlh}, e.g. *{wa' vatlh rep} "1:00"
> * consistent lack of {vatlh} if minutes are mentioned, e.g. *{wa'
> wa'maH vagh rep} "1:15". (With {pagh} inserted if the minutes are less
> than ten.)
>
> > I separated the vatlh from the wa'maH to show that it is a
> > specialized usage of vatlh (wa'maHvatlh can't be a normal Klingon
> number). I
> > left it attached to Hutvatlh and so on because they happen to be regular
> > Klingon numbers anyway.
>
> Ah, that explains that! I had been wondering about {wa'maH vatlh} and
> {cha'maH vatlh}.
>
> Cheers,
> Philip
> --
> Philip Newton <philip.newton@gmail.com>
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What happened to Klingon time being counted from dawn-to-dawn? Is this just=
the Klingon time-keeping words being transposed 6 hours earlier than they =
normally run, or is it now a retcon, or do they actually have a totally dif=
ferent system of counting time and what we have here is a translation of hu=
man time?<br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Philip Newt=
on <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:philip.newton@gmail.com">philip.=
newton@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"=
style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div class=3D"im">On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 00:34, Adm qe'San <<a href=
=3D"mailto:qeSan@btinternet.com">qeSan@btinternet.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Five past five (5:05)a.m. - =A0 =A0 vaghvatlh vagh rep<br>
> 5:05 p.m. (17:05) - =A0 =A0 wa'maH Sochvatlh vagh rep<br>
<br>
</div>On the original CD, the Latin script text had a different wording:<br=
>
{vagh pagh vagh rep}. Presumably, this is an earlier (and not canon)<br>
version. The sound file and the pIqaD agree with the newer-style<br>
wording.<br>
<br>
Other spelling differences include:<br>
<br>
* consistent space before {vatlh}, e.g. *{wa' vatlh rep} "1:00&quo=
t;<br>
* consistent lack of {vatlh} if minutes are mentioned, e.g. *{wa'<br>
wa'maH vagh rep} "1:15". (With {pagh} inserted if the minutes=
are less<br>
than ten.)<br>
<div class=3D"im"><br>
> I separated the vatlh from the wa'maH to show that it is a<br>
> specialized usage of vatlh (wa'maHvatlh can't be a normal Klin=
gon number). I<br>
> left it attached to Hutvatlh and so on because they happen to be regul=
ar<br>
> Klingon numbers anyway.<br>
<br>
</div>Ah, that explains that! I had been wondering about {wa'maH vatlh}=
and<br>
{cha'maH vatlh}.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Philip<br>
<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888">--<br>
Philip Newton <<a href=3D"mailto:philip.newton@gmail.com">philip.newton@=
gmail.com</a>><br>
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