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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Eurotalk - New Words - Countries
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Josh Badgley)
Sat Oct 29 16:23:26 2011
From: Josh Badgley <joshbadgley@hotmail.com>
To: <philip.newton@gmail.com>, KLI <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 15:23:03 -0500
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I had a thought while I was re-reading your email. Perhaps I am missing th=
e point of the new Eurotalk software=2C but let me explain my crackpot theo=
ry. Let's say this CD really "covers everyday words Klingons would use if t=
hey lived on Earth today"=2C as Eurotalk's website says. So pretend a Kling=
on decides to visit 21st century Earth=2C for whatever reason. Maybe a whol=
e expedition visits earth and they scatter out across the various nations o=
f the planet. I would imagine this would be a situation analagous to the fi=
rst European "explorers" visiting the Far East for the first time=2C or the=
Americas=2C or any other remote corner of the world. Now assume our Kling=
on friend doesn not speak any Terran languages. Instead=2C he (or she) has=
to learn bit by bit the native language of wherever they wind up. So one =
Klingon arrives in Germany and picks up some German. Perhaps they don't ma=
ster German=2C but they learn enough to get by. For him (or her)=2C the na=
me of the country is "Deutschland"=2C not "Germany". Later on this Klingon=
relates his/her adventures to other Klingons. Maybe he has to file a repo=
rt to his superiors. He tells them he's been on this weird planet. He says=
specifically he had spent time in a nation that the natives called DoyIchl=
an. So that's the word that gets added to the Klingon lexicon. Maybe? =
=20
-- jhb
From: joshbadgley@hotmail.com
To: philip.newton@gmail.com=3B tlhingan-hol@kli.org
Date: Sat=2C 29 Oct 2011 15:08:51 -0500
Subject: Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Eurotalk - New Words - Countries
vuQ...De'vamvaD qatlho'. =20
'ach DaH Sepvetlh pong 'oH nu'SIylan'e' 'ej vIparHa'. Sachmo' tlhIngan Hol=
jIQuch. De' jengva'vam 'oHlaw' bI'reS'e'. jISeyqu'.
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-- jhb
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> From: philip.newton@gmail.com
> Date: Sat=2C 29 Oct 2011 21:35:40 +0200
> To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
> Subject: Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Eurotalk - New Words - Countries
>=20
> On Sat=2C Oct 29=2C 2011 at 19:06=2C Josh Badgley <joshbadgley@hotmail.co=
m> wrote:
> > The New Zealand thing throws me not because they didn't use the Maori n=
ame=2C
> > but because "New" does not translate to "nu"...I get the "SIylan" part
> > though..
>=20
> In Tongan=2C it's Nu=91u Sila (Nu'u Sila)=3B in Niuean=2C it's Niu Silani=
.
>=20
> Both those Polynesian languages (many of whose speakers live in NZ)
> transcribed=2C rather than translated=2C the "New" bit.
>=20
> Struck me as odd when I learned about that=2C but that's the way it is. *=
shrug*
>=20
> Cheers=2C
> Philip
> --=20
> Philip Newton <philip.newton@gmail.com>
>=20
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<font face=3D"Courier New">I had a thought while I was re-reading your emai=
l. =3B Perhaps I am missing the point of the new Eurotalk software=2C b=
ut let me explain my crackpot theory.</font><BR><font face=3D"Courier New">=
</font> =3B<BR><font face=3D"Courier New">Let's say this CD really "cov=
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urotalk's website says. So pretend a Klingon =3Bdecides to visit =
=3B21st century Earth=2C for whatever reason. =3BMaybe a whole expediti=
on visits earth and =3Bthey scatter out across the various nations of t=
he planet. =3BI would imagine this would be a situation analagous to th=
e first European "explorers" visiting the Far East for the first time=2C or=
the Americas=2C or any other remote corner of the world. =3B Now assum=
e our Klingon friend doesn not speak any Terran languages. =3B Instead=
=2C he (or she) has to learn bit by bit the native language of wherever the=
y wind up. =3B So one Klingon arrives in Germany and picks up some Germ=
an. =3B =3BPerhaps they don't master German=2C but they learn enoug=
h to get by. =3B =3BFor him (or her)=2C the name of the country is =
"Deutschland"=2C =3Bnot "Germany". =3B Later on this Klingon relate=
s his/her adventures to other Klingons. =3B Maybe he has to file a repo=
rt to his superiors. He tells them he's =3Bbeen on this weird planet.&n=
bsp=3B He says specifically he =3Bhad spent time =3Bin a nation tha=
t the natives called =3BDoyIchlan. =3B So that's the word that gets=
added to the Klingon lexicon.</font><BR><font face=3D"Courier New"></font>=
 =3B<BR><font face=3D"Courier New">Maybe? =3B =3B =3B =
=3B <br id=3D"FontBreak"></font><br><br><font face=3D"Courier New"><br>-- j=
hb<br></font><br> =3B<BR><div><hr id=3D"stopSpelling">From: joshbadgley=
@hotmail.com<br>To: philip.newton@gmail.com=3B tlhingan-hol@kli.org<br>Date=
: Sat=2C 29 Oct 2011 15:08:51 -0500<br>Subject: Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Eurotalk=
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<font face=3D"Courier New">vuQ...De'vamvaD qatlho'. =3B <br id=3D"ecxFo=
ntBreak"></font><br><font face=3D"Courier New">'ach DaH Sepvetlh pong 'oH n=
u'SIylan'e' 'ej vIparHa'. =3B Sachmo' tlhIngan Hol jIQuch. =3B De' =
jengva'vam 'oHlaw' bI'reS'e'. =3B jISeyqu'.</font><br><font face=3D"Cou=
rier New"></font> =3B<br><font face=3D"Courier New"> =3B<br><br>-- =
jhb<br></font><br> =3B<br><div>>=3B From: philip.newton@gmail.com<br>=
>=3B Date: Sat=2C 29 Oct 2011 21:35:40 +0200<br>>=3B To: tlhingan-hol@k=
li.org<br>>=3B Subject: Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Eurotalk - New Words - Countri=
es<br>>=3B <br>>=3B On Sat=2C Oct 29=2C 2011 at 19:06=2C Josh Badgley &=
lt=3Bjoshbadgley@hotmail.com>=3B wrote:<br>>=3B >=3B The New Zealand =
thing throws me not because they didn't use the Maori name=2C<br>>=3B >=
=3B but because "New" does not translate to "nu"...I get the "SIylan" part<=
br>>=3B >=3B though..<br>>=3B <br>>=3B In Tongan=2C it's Nu=91u Sil=
a (Nu'u Sila)=3B in Niuean=2C it's Niu Silani.<br>>=3B <br>>=3B Both th=
ose Polynesian languages (many of whose speakers live in NZ)<br>>=3B tran=
scribed=2C rather than translated=2C the "New" bit.<br>>=3B <br>>=3B St=
ruck me as odd when I learned about that=2C but that's the way it is. *shru=
g*<br>>=3B <br>>=3B Cheers=2C<br>>=3B Philip<br>>=3B -- <br>>=3B =
Philip Newton <=3Bphilip.newton@gmail.com>=3B<br>>=3B <br>>=3B ____=
___________________________________________<br>>=3B Tlhingan-hol mailing =
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.digitalkingdom.org/mailman/listinfo/tlhingan-hol<br></div> </di=
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