[89832] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Hoghvam qaSpu' (2011-09-24)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Brent Kesler)
Mon Sep 26 13:21:18 2011
In-Reply-To: <6.2.5.6.2.20110925160302.05238cf0@flyingstart.ca>
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 10:20:51 -0700
From: Brent Kesler <brent.of.all.people@gmail.com>
To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
Errors-To: tlhingan-hol-bounces@stodi.digitalkingdom.org
On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Qov <robyn@flyingstart.ca> wrote:
>> =3D=3D Heghpu' =ABtlhobQo' ja'Qo'=BB =3D=3D
>
> Inadvertent hilarity here, as tlhob is more like "ask a favour" than "ask=
a
> question," so in the context it made me think of a situation where the
> military had ended a policy forbidding commanders to ask for sexual favou=
rs.
> I would definitely recommend ghel here.
Yes. I believe <tlhobQo'> is still in effect.
>> Hoghvam jaj cha'DIch,
>
> You know Human weeks start on different days in different countries, righ=
t?
> In the US Sunday is the first day of the week, so this would be Monday to
> them, but I think it happened on a Tuesday.
It was Tuesday. Although I'm American, starting the week on Monday
seems pretty standard to me. I'd expect the Federation to adopt that
standard, so I went with it. I didn't occur to me that it might be
confusing in the here-and-now.
>> parmaq SammeH, loD Suqchugh loD, qoj be' Suqchugh be',
>
> Succinctly and clearly put.
Thanks. I was surprised when this sprang fully-grown from my forehead.
>> ngochmo' wa'netlh loSSaD mangpu' mejmoHpu' QI'.
>
> law'qu'!
jIH mumerpu' je!
>> =3D=3D yemen che'ta' Sale =3D=3D
>> DevwI'quv juH'a' HIvpu' gholpu'Daj
>
> juH'a' 'ar? =A0wa' neH luHIvpu'chugh gholpu' vaj <luHIvpu'>.
> (Guess I'm the lu-police today).
Hoghvam <lu-> vIlo'be'DI', pIj jIQagh. HIvqa' veqlargh!
>> =A0'ej nachDajDaq rIQchoHpu' Sale.
>
> wot QID yIqel. <Sale nach luQIDpu'.> =A0Direct seems better to me in Klin=
gon.
maj.
>> rIQHa'meH ghaH
>
> Even though I know what you're going for (to heal the injury) I don't get
> that read at all from rIQHa'. With no context I would assume rIQHa' to me=
an
> perhaps a botched injury ("mIn'e' Dabach qajapu' jay'! ghIch Dabachpu'!")
> =A0Why not vor?
I wish I knew about that word. A lot of my time on these stories is
spent thinking of the word I want, looking for it in various sources,
failing to find it, and trying to think of another way to say it.
Sometimes I flip trough the pages hoping I'll just notice a word that
works. I didn't think to try "cure".
I'm building a database to help me make these connections, but it's
not finished yet.
>> vaychoHqa'pu' yemennganpu'
>
> These verbs really come into their own when you are talking about multiple
> conflicts, and can compare their ferocity just by the word choice to
> describe each.
I just wish I had some idea about what level of ferocity these verbs
have in practice. I hope I'm getting it "right". Does <Hargh> work for
the Battle of Stalingrad? Or does it really have to be the End of the
World?
Thanks again for your notes. There's enough here for a second draft.
bI'reng
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