[89626] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: 'oghwI' lut
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Michael Roney, Jr. PKT)
Mon Sep 12 13:27:03 2011
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 13:21:47 -0400
From: "Michael Roney, Jr. PKT" <nahqun@gmail.com>
To: <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Errors-to: tlhingan-hol-bounce@kli.org
Reply-to: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
I didn't like simply adding a qaghwI' either, which is why I followed up
withmy actual suggestion.
Whichever way one goes, <ray> needs to stay as one syllable in order to
matchthe "ri" sound in "Orion".
~naHQun
~Michael Roney, Jr.
Professional Klingon translator
webOS developer
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On Sep 12, 2011 12:15, Rohan Fenwick - QeS 'utlh <qeslagh@hotmail.com>
wrote:
ghItlhpu' naHQun, jatlh:
>So I guess that brings us back to *orayangan.
>We'll need to adjust this a bit to fit the CVC system.
>Currently we have o-ray-a-ngan.
>The simple solution would be 'o-ray-'a-ngan.
It constantly surprises me that people so often want to fill up the gaps in
loans of this sort with glottal stops. I don't mean to criticise you in
that;
a lot of people do it.
But Klingon is perfectly happy with CV syllables and seems to be doubly so
in
names, both native and borrowed (romuluS, verengan, lIgho(n)ngan, DuraS,
mara,
tlha'a, be'etor...). Unless there's a good reason, like maintaining stress -
cf. be'taSeD "Betazed" from the Monopoly board - the simplest solution for
*orayangan would be to just add an initial qaghwI': 'o-ra-ya-ngan. If
another
qaghwI' appeared anywhere I'd expect it before the ngay: 'o-ra-ya'-ngan, as
KGT talks about the planet-ending -ya' (Sorya', DenIbya', lIghonya', etc.)
at
some length.
QeS 'utlh
