[89618] in tlhIngan-Hol
RE: 'oghwI' lut
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steven Boozer)
Mon Sep 12 12:36:18 2011
From: Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu>
To: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 11:31:27 -0500
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jhb:
> > orayangan - Orion. I saw this term on the KLI's Extended Corpus page.
naHQun:
> From the EC page:
> "(phrase) A Klingon term that means "Orion". It is used to refer to someone
> who pushes their subordinates like an Orion slaver."
>
> This brings up an interesting question on species names.
> The general rule is planet name plus -ngan.
> But then we have the word <Human> in addition to <tera'ngan>.
>
> IIRC, Orions are from the Rigel system.
> (And it seems that most, if not all, of the planets are habitable.)
> So <*rayghelngan> would make sense.
> But they don't call themselves Rigeleans, they're Orions.
> And I don't see the first meeting between the two groups including the
> phrase "We're Orions, but we're from the Rigel system, it's over there."
FWIW Krankor once used *{ray'jIl}.
> So I guess that brings us back to *orayangan.
> We'll need to adjust this a bit to fit the CVC system.
> Currently we have o-ray-a-ngan.
> The simple solution would be 'o-ray-'a-ngan.
Which a Klingon might hear as *{'orayya'ngan} with the {-ya'} so-called place name "suffix" (cf. KGT 142-42). There's no reason Klingons would use {-ya'} in all the places we use /-ia/.
> But I think I prefer 'o-ray-ngan.
Agreed. Or even *{'oray'ngan} which somehow sounds better to me. YMMV.
--
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
