[89461] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: Klingon accent
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (lojmIt tI'wI' nuv)
Tue Sep 6 11:01:28 2011
From: "lojmIt tI'wI' nuv" <lojmitti7wi7nuv@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <1315319158.22852.YahooMailClassic@web82603.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 10:53:59 -0400
To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
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I'm southern. My wife isn't. She can hear the difference between my words "whet" and "wet" easily enough. She just can't bring herself to make the sound difference herself, pronouncing both as "wet". She enjoys making fun of me by asking me to say the two words for her friends, most of whom are similarly amused, and similarly can clearly hear the difference, but are incapable of making the "wh" sound in any word except "who", so far as I can tell.
I can't understand why they can say "who", but then change "what, when, where" into "watt, wen, wear". If you are going to stupidly omit a phoneme in most cases, why doesn't "who" become "woo"? At least then you would be consistent.
Ahhh, but then "woo" would sound stupid, right? So, why doesn't "watt, wen, wear" sound stupid?
Actually, it does, but not to those who do it.
I recognize there is a reversal over the words "pen" and "pin", where she pronounces the two quite differently while I tend to blur both toward something in between the two sounds she makes. Still, I recognize this as a flaw in my diction and with effort I can make the two sounds and will attempt to do so whenever I think about it, which is quite different from the arrogant attitude northerners have toward "wh".
pItlh.
lojmIt tI'wI' nuv
On Sep 6, 2011, at 10:25 AM, Terrence Donnelly wrote:
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> --- On Tue, 9/6/11, Felix Malmenbeck <felixm@kth.se> wrote:
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>> From: Felix Malmenbeck <felixm@kth.se>
>> Subject: RE: Klingon accent
>> To: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
>> Date: Tuesday, September 6, 2011, 7:35 AM
>>> In the TKD its mention that some
>> Klingons pronounce w as Hw...
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>> petrIq tu'wetlhvaD jatlh tu'wI': HwIl HwIyten
>> bobelHa'be'nISchoH.
>> jang petrIq, jatlh: latlh ghetwI'pu' vIbelHa'moH vIneHchugh
>> vaj... ... ...nuqjatlh?
>> jang tu'wI', jatlh: jIjatlhpu', HwIl HwIytenvaD
>> bobelHa'be'nISchoH.
>> petrIq: wIl wIyten bIjatlh 'e' DaHech.
>> tu'wI': HIja'. HwIl HwIyten.
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> My (Southern American) wife insists there is a difference between the initial sounds of "when" and "wet". I can't hear it...
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> -- ter'eS
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