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RE: Difference between "nuv" and "ghot"?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steven Boozer)
Mon Aug 29 14:36:24 2011

From: Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu>
To: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 13:28:51 -0500
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André Müller:
> Is there a difference between the two words "nuv" and "ghot"? Maybe
> deductable from the canon phrases we have for them?
> [...]  Can someone enlighten me?

We've been trying to figure that out for years.  Here are all the examples I have in my notes.  (If you perceive a distinction. let me know.):

{ghot} in canon:

   ghotpu' tamey 
   Personnel Files  (STC) 

   reH tay' ghot tuqDaj je 
   One is always of his tribe
   ("A person and his house are always together").  (TKW) 

   ghotvam Ho'lu'. 'ej muSlu' 
   A man to admire. and hate.  (ST5 notes) 

   wey jolpat: wa' (jav ghotpu') 
   Personnel Transporter - 1 (6 Man)  (KBoP)

{nuv} in canon:

   butlh ghajbogh nuv'e' yIHo' 
   Admire the person with dirt under his fingernails.  (TKW) 

   ngIq nuv luHoH 
   "they killed the warriors [sic] one by one"  ('U'-OPERA)

> I never really know what to use when I just want to talk about people in
> general (and not Humanpu', qabDu' law', nganpu' or anything...).

Although Okrand seems to prefer {ghot}, he did opt for {nuv} in the recent libretto for the opera {'u'}.  I generally follow Okrand's preference and use {ghot} everywhere.

--
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons






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