[89165] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: tlhIngan lalDan
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Robyn Stewart)
Tue Aug 23 11:37:52 2011
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 08:27:43 -0700
To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
From: Robyn Stewart <robyn@flyingstart.ca>
In-Reply-To: <SNT106-DS7E63CDFE4F3445361E7FFA12E0@phx.gbl>
Errors-to: tlhingan-hol-bounce@kli.org
Reply-to: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
lutlIj'e' 'oH. I just introduced a story that includes a Klingon
seeking a retirement pastime so he doesn't end up despairing that he
will not die in battle and taking a ship into an unwinnable fight!
QunvaD qoy'chugh tlhInganlIj, ghaytan Daj.
rut tlhIngan Dabe'chu' lut SubwIj, latlh mut vIlo'. vay' nuQchugh
qech, chaq tlhIngan tIQ tlhInganlIj 'e' HarlaH.
- Qov.
At 07:40 23/08/2011, you wrote:
>Just a curious question...I am trying to write my first short story
>in tlhIngan Hol. My understanding is that the Klingon people slew
>their gods ages ago...yet within TKD we find terms like lalDan, lat,
>chIrgh, etc. It would seem from what little I know that Klingons
>seem to highly revere their honorable ancestors. Would it be out of
>character if one of the Klingons in my story were to visit a temple,
>or invoke his ancestors? Maybe not "pray" in the sense of "beg" but
>more like "worship" or "appease"?
>
>Josh
>
>-----Original Message-----
>Date: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 8:55:20 am
>To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
>From: David Trimboli <david@trimboli.name>
>Subject: RE: nuq bop bom: 'ay' wa'
>
>jatlh Qov:
>
> > Thank you so much for these, SuStel. I really appreciate your working
> > through it.
>
>qay'be'. jIHvaD Qu' rap Data'pu'.
>
> > I know I am rusty, so I was TRYING to go for quality not
> > quantity here, so that these things I have forgotten could be
> > corrected.
>
> >>> meHDaq yaHDajDaq ba' vajar HoD.
> >>
> >> This needs aspect, or else it's automatically not continuous and not
> >> completed. Likewise for any verbs that show something happening in the
> >> story, but not for verbs that are simply describing the way things
> >> are.
> >
> > I think I need some more help with this. I generally don't put an
> > aspect suffix on a verb until I need to contrast it with other action
> > in the paragraph. Are you saying that any verb must have an aspect
> > suffix? I totally don't remember that. Could you point me at the
> > rule? Or is it just that those particular sentences are confusing
> > because you can't tell the aspect of the action?
>
>This is a rule that has largely been ignored by even the most veteran of
>Klingon speakers
