[88919] in tlhIngan-Hol
RE: Reno
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Felix Malmenbeck)
Wed Jun 29 01:37:23 2011
From: Felix Malmenbeck <felixm@kth.se>
To: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 05:28:55 +0000
In-Reply-To: <BCC4F9CF11D84F699B674F8F9D5BBA5D@Nargothrond>
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Reply-to: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
Two canonical examples:
wa' Dol nIvDaq matay'DI' maQap.
"We succeed together in a greater whole." [TKW]
batlh maHeghbej 'ej yo' qIjDaq vavpu'ma' DImuv
"We certainly die honorably and join our fathers in the Black Fleet." [The Warrior's Anthem (ST:K and KGT)]
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From: tlhingan-hol-bounce@kli.org [tlhingan-hol-bounce@kli.org] on behalf of David Trimboli [david@trimboli.name]
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 06:03
To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
Subject: Re: Reno
I think he means {veng mach'e'} "small city (as topic)" in the sentence
below.
Sure, you can do this. TKD p. 50: "If a Type 5 noun suffix is used... it
follows the verb..." {veng tInDaq} "in the big city" When did this
become questionable?
-----Original Message-----
From: Robyn Stewart
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 10:18 PM
To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
Subject: Re: Reno
At 19:02 28/06/2011, you wrote:
>I know I'm rusty, but can you really put a Type 5 noun suffix on a
>verb being used as an adjective? I thought this was one of the
>things I really wanted with {-Daq} many years ago, but didn't get.
It's not acting as an adjective here, just as a location for the
whole sentence.
>It would certainly make certain constructions clearer if it were
>legal, but I thought it was determined to be illegal. I'm sure
>someone else remembers this better than I do.
>
>lojmIt tI'wI' nuv
>lojmIttI7wI7nuv@gmail.com
>
>
>
>On Jun 28, 2011, at 4:35 PM, Steven Boozer wrote:
>
> > ghunchu'wI' 'utlh:
> >> qo'Daq vengvam mach tIn law' Hoch tIn puS
> >
> > toH... "The Biggest Little City in the World"!
> >
> > mumISmoH <<mach tIn>>. chaq {-'e'} mojaq Dalo'chugh qaq
> mu'tlheghvam: <<qo'Daq veng mach'e' RENO tIn law' Hoch tIn
> puS.>> chovnatlhvam yInuD:
> >
> > qIbDaq SuvwI''e' SoH Dun law' Hoch Dun puS. (ST5)
> >
> > 'ach latlh ghopDaq...
> >
> > tlhutlhmeH HIq ngeb qaq law' bIQ qaq puS. (TKW)
> >
> >
> > --
> > Voragh
> > Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
> >
> >
> >
