[88466] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: monastery
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (=?UTF-8?B?QW5kcsOpIE3DvGxsZXI=?=)
Wed Dec 22 05:31:32 2010
In-Reply-To: <20101222093543.157630@gmx.net>
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 18:24:53 +0800
From: =?UTF-8?B?QW5kcsOpIE3DvGxsZXI=?= <esperantist@gmail.com>
To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
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Dear Lieven,
The sentence is indeed ambiguous. It can have both meanings, but I tend to
believe Okrand had the first in mind, refering to the building and its
inhabitants. Would he have intended the second reading, I think he'd phrase
it differently.
I'm not a native speaker of English, but isn't it possible to say, like,
"The whole monastery was shocked and frightened about the new monk's deed."
(or something). I understand the Klingon word as referring to the building
("The monastery was found in 1673.") and to the people in it, as my example
sentence above.
But it's true: wie can't know for sure.
Greetings,
- André
2010/12/22 Lieven Litaer <levinius@gmx.de>
> Perhaps my english is so bad that I do not understand this corectly:
>
> Marc Okrand:
> > The word for monastery is {ghIn}. This is a pretty general term for a
> > religious community
>
> naHQun:
> > But the second one seems to say "ghIn=general term for a relgious
> > comunity".
>
> My question to you english speakers:
> what does this phrase mean literally?
> "This is a general term for a community."
>
> Does it mean "The word is THE WORD FOR <<community>>" or does it mean "This
> is a general term WHICH IS USED BY a community"?
>
> Look again to the above phrase by MO: he first uses the expression "the
> word for... is". Then he says "it's a term for".
>
> By the way, "Christmas" is a also a term for a religious community, isn't
> it?
>
> Quvar.
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