[88212] in tlhIngan-Hol
RE: muD Dotlh
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Felix Malmenbeck)
Tue Aug 24 18:07:59 2010
From: Felix Malmenbeck <felixm@kth.se>
To: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 21:58:48 +0000
In-Reply-To: <16D8CA08-95DE-4663-9CEF-C6BDC9912CE9@gmail.com>
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Hmm, well, according to Klingonska Akademien, "The adverbial normally preceedes the objectverbsubject construction, but is sometimes itself preceeded by other elements (typically a time element such as at three o'clock or tomorrow).", so it doesn't seem impossible that you could go with {tugh ghaytan SIS.}, but that's mostly speculation on my part.
Also, more speculation on my part: We have seen such constructions as {yoHbogh matlhbogh je SuvwI'} ("the warrior who is brave and loyal"), so it doesn't seem impossible that one could make such a construction as {ghaytan tugh je SIS.} ("it rains, soon and likely"). Not impossible, but also not certain.
//Felix, speculator without a license
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From: tlhingan-hol-bounce@kli.org [tlhingan-hol-bounce@kli.org] on behalf of lojmIt tI'wI' nuv [lojmitti7wi7nuv@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 23:11
To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
Subject: muD Dotlh
So, I want to say, "It looks like it's going to rain soon."
First, I thought, {ghaytan tugh SIS.} But that uses two adverbials, and Okrand has never really smiled on that practice. So, then I thought, {tugh SISlaw'.} But that implies that soon it will appear to rain, or soon it will apparently rain...
So, then I start stretching it out to uglier constructions, like {tugh SIS 'e' vIpIH.}
Is that really the best I can do with this language? Something as common as "It looks like it's going to rain soon," is a problem?
SISbogh chal rur chalvam.
tugh SISmo' Hurgh chal.
jatlh HomDu'wIj. tugh SIS.
juH vIghoStaHvIS ghaytan jIyIQchoH
pItlh.
lojmIt tI'wI' nuv
