[86988] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: The topic marker -'e'
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Christopher Doty)
Mon Nov 23 15:52:28 2009
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From: Christopher Doty <suomichris@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 12:51:04 -0800
To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
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On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 12:43, ghunchu'wI' 'utlh <qunchuy@alcaco.net> wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 3:20 PM, David Trimboli <david@trimboli.name> wrote:
>>
>> Not all verbs of action have agents. For instance:
>>
>> bom Qoy puq
>> the child hears the song
>> puq = experiencer
>> bom = theme
>>
>> To be an agent, the noun must intentionally perform the action...
>
> I don't find this example as compelling as you might expect. {Qoy} is
> explicitly an action which one must perform intentionally, as we know
> from the commentary for TKW page 31: {'IwlIj ghogh yIQoy.}
So when cars drive by your house, you intentionally listen to each of
them? When a loud noise wakes you up at night, you intentionally
heard it?