[86518] in tlhIngan-Hol
RE: nom*i*nal*ize 2. to convert (an underlying clause) into a noun
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Agnieszka Solska)
Mon Sep 14 16:39:25 2009
From: Agnieszka Solska <agnpau1@hotmail.com>
To: tlhIngan Hol <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 20:37:46 +0000
In-Reply-To: <E1MlfqQ-0000JB-MM@chain.digitalkingdom.org>
Errors-to: tlhingan-hol-bounce@kli.org
Reply-to: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
ter'eS:
>What's interesting about these is that these are different types of
>suffixes. From MO's description, it sounded like you couldn't use a naked
>verb plus {-ghach} because some sort of time or state was implied by {-
>ghach} that the naked verb didn't convey, so one had to use one of the
>"aspectual" suffixes, such as {-taH} or {-qa'}. But the only aspectual
>suffix in the above group is {-qa'},
Voragh:
>To review the types of intervening suffixes MO has used:
>
>Type 3 (change)
> naDqa'ghach "re-commendation" (TKD)
>
>Type 4 (cause):
> quvmoHghach "process of honoring" (HQ 3.3)
>
>Type 5 (ability):
> lo'laHghach "value" (TKD)
> lo'laHbe'ghach "worthlessness" (TKD)
>
>Type 7 (aspect):
> tlhutlhtaHghach "ongoing drinking" (HQ 3.3)
> nobtaHghach "ongoing giving" (HQ 3.3)
> nobpu'ghach "a given (a finished case of giving)" (HQ 3.3)
> belpu'ghach "having been pleased" (HQ 3.3)
>
>Rover:
> naDHa'ghach "discommendation" (TKD)
> quvHa'ghach "dishonor" (TKW)
There is another type 5 suffix (-lu'), indicating "that the subject is unknown, indefinite,
and/or general" (TKD 4.2.5).
Any ideas on whether it could be used together with {-ghach} to create nouns expressing
something like "the process or act of doing something" or "the state of being something, e.g.:
?qetlu'ghach - "running, (the process or act of) running"
?lajlu'ghach - "acceptance, (the process or act of) accepting"
?ghetlu'ghach - "pretense, (the process or act of) pretending"
?jIvlu'ghach - "ignorance, (the state of) being ignorant"
?Doghlu'ghach - "foolishness, (the state of) being foolish"
'ISqu'
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