[86314] in tlhIngan-Hol
RE: 'oQqar pe'pu'bogh; naQHommey rur ghIq mIQpu'
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steven Boozer)
Mon Jul 27 12:13:29 2009
From: Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu>
To: "'tlhingan-hol@kli.org'" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 11:11:26 -0500
In-Reply-To: <DA3B7653BC34499BA711A665F0B56860@HPBrownPC>
Errors-to: tlhingan-hol-bounce@kli.org
Reply-to: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
SuStel:
>> 'oQqar lupe'lu'pu'bogh 'ej lumIQlu'pu'bogh
>> root which is cut and which is deep-fried
qe'San (Jon Brown)
>As -bogh is on both verbs making this a noun and noun construction
>wouldn't the "and" be {je} and follow both e.g:
> 'oQqar lupe'lu'pu'bogh lumIQlu'pu'bogh je
No. The only noun here is {'oQqar}. {lupe'lu'pu'bogh} and {lumIQlu'pu'bogh} are relative VERB phrases and so you use {'ej}. Notice the difference between:
nISwI' HIch motlh HoS Hal qengwI' naQ tIq je lurarlu'bogh 'oH
tlhIngan nISwI' beH'e'
The Klingon disruptor rifle is a standard hand held disruptor,
attached to an extended power supply stock. S14
and:
romuluSngan Sambogh 'ej HoHbogh nejwI'
Romulan hunter-killer probe. KCD
SuDbogh Dargh 'ej wovbogh
The tea that is {SuD} and light. KGT
(one way to refer to yellowish or light-green tea)
You could repeat the noun and say:
'oQqar lupe'lu'bogh 'oQqar lumIQlu'bogh je
cut tubers and deep-fried tubers
but this would refer to two different types of tubers; e.g. two groups in different stages of preparation on your kitchen counter.
--
Voragh
Canon Master of the Klingons