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RE: 'oQqar pe'pu'bogh; naQHommey rur ghIq mIQpu'

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steven Boozer)
Mon Jul 27 12:13:29 2009

From: Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu>
To: "'tlhingan-hol@kli.org'" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 11:11:26 -0500
In-Reply-To: <DA3B7653BC34499BA711A665F0B56860@HPBrownPC>
Errors-to: tlhingan-hol-bounce@kli.org
Reply-to: tlhingan-hol@kli.org

SuStel:
>> 'oQqar lupe'lu'pu'bogh 'ej lumIQlu'pu'bogh
>>  root which is cut and which is deep-fried

qe'San (Jon Brown)
>As -bogh is on both verbs making this a noun and noun construction
>wouldn't the "and" be {je} and follow both e.g:
>    'oQqar lupe'lu'pu'bogh lumIQlu'pu'bogh je

No.  The only noun here is {'oQqar}.  {lupe'lu'pu'bogh} and {lumIQlu'pu'bogh} are relative VERB phrases and so you use {'ej}.  Notice the difference between:

  nISwI' HIch motlh HoS Hal qengwI' naQ tIq je lurarlu'bogh 'oH
   tlhIngan nISwI' beH'e' 
  The Klingon disruptor rifle is a standard hand held disruptor,
   attached to an extended power supply stock.  S14

and:

  romuluSngan Sambogh 'ej HoHbogh nejwI' 
  Romulan hunter-killer probe.  KCD

  SuDbogh Dargh 'ej wovbogh 
  The tea that is {SuD} and light.  KGT
  (one way to refer to yellowish or light-green tea)

You could repeat the noun and say:

  'oQqar lupe'lu'bogh 'oQqar lumIQlu'bogh je
  cut tubers and deep-fried tubers

but this would refer to two different types of tubers; e.g. two groups in different stages of preparation on your kitchen counter.
 
 
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Voragh                          
Canon Master of the Klingons





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