[85989] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: Klingon IPA chart
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (ghunchu'wI')
Thu Jun 25 20:08:28 2009
In-Reply-To: <EE19830B-FDB5-44B9-B549-1684E85AA5E0@evertype.com>
From: "ghunchu'wI'" <qunchuy@alcaco.net>
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 20:06:33 -0400
To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
Errors-to: tlhingan-hol-bounce@kli.org
Reply-to: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
On Jun 25, 2009, at 5:55 PM, Michael Everson wrote:
> http://www.evertype.com/standards/csur/tlh/klingon-ipa.pdf
"...[ə] is a slang variant of [u]." I think you might be referring
to the {qUlegh} example from KGT page 139. The vowel being relaxed
is {a}, not {u}. And it's not a "slang" variant, it's a lazy and
incorrect one. :)
If you wish to represent childish speech, you should include the
voiced variant of {j}, the more "k"-ish version of {q}, and the
"nyet"-like pronunciation of syllable-initial {ng}, all described on
KGT page 32.
"In Morskan dialect, [ɣl] is an initial and medial, and [ts] a final,
variant of [tɬ]." What do you mean by "medial"? KGT page 22 says
that the variation depends on whether the sound is at the beginning
or end of a syllable, not of a word. The only thing in the middle of
a Klingon syllable is a vowel.
You've ignored the untrilled "r" in the consonant cluster {rgh} at
the end of some syllables. I mention it because your chart notes
seem to be striving for completeness of description.
I thought "h" was a fricative, not an affricate.
I'm only going to say this once: Klingon does not have diphthongs as
distinct phonemes.
-- ghunchu'wI'
