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RE: "matay'DI' jIHegh vIneH!"

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steven Boozer)
Wed Feb 18 09:38:22 2009

From: Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu>
To: "'tlhingan-hol@kli.org'" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 08:35:39 -0600
In-Reply-To: <CA773F24E0F44E64852E5B85944858E7@juH.Seruqtuq.net>
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Voragh:
>>> consider the very Klingon sentiment {matay'DI' jIHegh vIneH}
>>> ("I want to die when we're together").

Mark J. Reed:
>>How is one to distinguish that from the somewhat less complimentary
>>"When we're together, I want to die."?  :)
>>
>>Would it help to replace {matay'DI'} with {matay'taHvIS}?  And perhaps
>>{maHegh} instead of {jIHegh}...

DloraH:
> I would have swapped it around.
> jIHeghDI' matay' vIneH.

Mark J. Reed:
>>maj.  nIvba' mu'tlheghvam.

Hmm... different takes on the original sentiment:

  "I want to die with you."  (source text)

  matay'DI' jIHegh vIneH
  when we're together, I want to die

  jIHeghDI' matay' vIneH.
  when I die, I want us to be together

  matay'DI' maHegh vIneH
  when we're together, I want us to die

  maHeghDI' matay' vIneH.
  when we die, I want us to be together

FYI: canon WRT {matay'DI'}:

  matay'DI' vIHtaHbogh bIQ rur mu'qaDmey 
  Between us, curses run like water. PK 

  wa' Dol nIvDaq matay'DI' maQap 
  We succeed together in a greater whole. TKW

 
--
Voragh                          
Canon Master of the Klingons



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