[85051] in tlhIngan-Hol
RE: Help with a project
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steven Boozer)
Wed Sep 10 18:14:39 2008
From: Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu>
To: "'tlhingan-hol@kli.org'" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:09:10 -0500
In-Reply-To: <330467.16194.qm@web82602.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Errors-to: tlhingan-hol-bounce@kli.org
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ter'eS:
> Now, how would you translate "prayer shawl"?
> So far, I'm going with {quvmoHmeH mopHom}.
Voragh:
>> {ngup} "cape" might be somewhat closer physically
>> than {mop} "robe" in the absence of a word for
>> sheet or blanket. {qatwI'} "something that
>> wraps/encases" might be a better description WRT to the
>> ritually protective function of a *talit" (or *talis*)
>> though.
ter'eS:
> And the "blessing for the Tzar" is the {tsarvaD quvmoHmeH SoQ}.
Voragh:
>> Why didn't you use {wo'} or {voDleH}? A tsar is an
>> emperor not just a king (in fact, it's just the Russian
>> version of Kaiser, Caesar). I'd choose {voDleH}, if
>> only because it's slightly more exotic sounding.
ter'eS:
> I'm deliberately keeping words like 'kopek', 'rabbi' and 'tsar' because
> this isn't a Klingon play, it's a play about Russian Jews performed for a
> Klingon audience.
It's probably a good idea to sprinkle a few more of these Kulturwörter among the otherwise opaque Klingon text. It would give your Jewish non-Klingon speaking audience a smile and would help them recognize what bit of the song your characters are singing.
So Reb Terrence, how about keeping matchmaker *shatkhn* (/SHOT-khn/ or /SHOD-khn/; pl. *shatkhonim* /shot-KHO-nim/) and prayer shawl *tales* (/TALL-iss/; pl. *taleysim* /tah-LEYSS-im/) in Yiddish?
> OTOH, you could then argue that the first character on stage should be
> called a {vI'o'lIn} player, so I'm not totally consistent.
Or a {*fidl* chu'wI'}! (As we've discussed it's probably an Earth object, Klingon bowed instruments being unknown.)
--
Voyregh
Der Bale-kanon di Klingoner
