[83993] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: Missing question words
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steven Boozer)
Wed Jan 16 17:41:08 2008
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:38:49 -0600
To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
From: Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu>
In-Reply-To: <A7B1F7B5-7BEB-4048-81FB-9B6DC0E9FC98@embarqmail.com>
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qa'vaj:
> >> That's also why I think that something like {naDevvo' juHwIjDaq wa'SaD
> >> qelI'qam ....} is the way to specify the distance. I just don't know
> >> how to complete the puzzle. Maybe {naDevvo' juHwIjDaq wa'SaD qelI'qam
> >> 'abbogh chuq tu'lu'}.
Voragh:
> > Since this discussion has migrated to more than one thread I may have
> > missed it, but what's wrong with simply:
> >
> > naDevvo' juHwIjDaq wa'SaD qelI'qam 'oH chuq'e'.
> > The distance from here to my house is 1,000 kellicams.
> > From here to my house the distance is 1,000 kellicams.
Doq:
>How about:
> naDev juHwIjDaq je joj 'oH wa'SaD qelI'qam'e'.
Firstly, the subject {wa'SaD qelI'qam} is plural, so use {bIH}.
Secondly, this would be:
naDev juHwIj je jojDaq 'oH wa'SaD qelI'qam'e'.
The locative suffix goes on the "area noun" (i.e. {Dung} "area above",
{bIng} "area below", {'em} "area behind", et al.) in a noun+noun
phrase. E.g.
poSDaq nIHDaq je QamtaHvIS SuvwI'pu', chaH jojDaq yItnIS lopwI'
The initiate must pass through a gauntlet of warriors. S9
cha' choQmey naQ tu'lu' 'ej tep choQ bIngDaq lo' law' bID choQ tu'lu'
2 Full Decks and a Half Utility Deck under the Cargo Deck KBoP
nagh DungDaq
above the rock TKD
Thirdly, I don't know if we need {je}. S9 is our only example of {joj}
"area between", but aren't at least two things implied if you're between
them? So:
? naDev juHwIj jojDaq 'oH wa'SaD qelI'qam'e'.
Lastly, I still don't see the need for {-Daq}:
? naDev juHwIj joj(Daq) bIH wa'SaD qelI'qam'e'.
1,000 kellicams are/is (in) the area between here and my house.
? wa'SaD qelI'qam 'oH naDev juHwIj (je) joj'e'.
The area between here and my house is 1,000 kellicams.
? wa'SaD qelI'qam 'ab naDev juHwIj (je) joj.
The area between here and my house measures 1,000 kellicams.
We haven't solved it yet.
--
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
