[83869] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: DawI' - ghetwI'
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steven Boozer)
Mon Jan 7 12:23:47 2008
Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 11:21:14 -0600
To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
From: Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu>
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SuStel wrote:
> > Besides, {Da} "behave as, act in the manner of" even has "act" in its
> > English definition! To me, {DawI'} seems to be closer to "actor" than
> > {ghetwI'}.
naHQun:
>I'd use ghetwI' for someone in costume at a Con. Mainly b/c ghet (v)
>pretend reminds me of the William Shatner quote "Get a life!" from the
>old SNL episode.
Okrand on {ghetwI'}:
HQ 12.3 p.8: {Qaq} "behave falsely honorably, behave in a falsely
honorable manner" ... is used in cases where one misrepresents oneself in
order to be accorded honor one is not entitled to, and in that way it is
different from {toj} "deceive" and {ghet} "pretend", neither of which has
this kind of connection to honor ... {ghet} and {ghetwI'} "pretender"
generally do not imply deception, but simply role-playing.
AFAIK he hasn't mentioned actors per se - although I'm sure he has definite
opinions on the subject! - but he has mentioned performers in passing:
KGT p.12: Among other activities at the annual Kot'baval Festival, for
example, the battle between Kahless and Molor is reenacted. While dueling
with their bat'leths, the performers portraying Kahless, Molor, and other
warriors sing traditional songs with words and grammatical forms that are
archaic indeed, some not in everyday use for well over 1,000 years.
naHQun:
>But of course, none of them ACTUALLY mean actor, and all of them work
>to one degree or another-so use whichever you prefer.
Aside from the fact that the KLI has used {DawI'} in _The Klingon Hamlet_,
either would seem to work just as well... at least until Maltz shares his
opinion. Besides, we have several words for it in English: actor/actress,
performer, player, thespian, etc.
--
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
