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Re: nuqneH

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU)
Thu Apr 22 19:08:03 1993

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From: Mark_Nudelman@go.com
To: "Klingon Language List" <tlhIngan-Hol@village.boston.ma.us>
Date: 22 Apr 93 13:12


          I know the Guidelines say that only the Grammarians should
          correct other people's Klingon, but I haven't seen any
          response to Doug's introduction, so I will hesitantly offer
          my neophyte reactions.  Think of this as a request to
          correct my possibly incorrect corrections:

Doug vIpong. tlhIngan Hol vIghojlI'.
QaHra' vItIvbejmeH laDghach joq ghItlhghach.

          The first two sentences look fine to me.  In the last,
          QaHra' would be QaHraj (as "help" is not an entity that
          uses language), except QaH is a verb not a noun.  (I thought
          there was a noun for "help", but I can't find it.  Maybe
          QaHghach, or boQghach?)

          More importantly, the word order is wrong.  "laDghach joq
          ghItlhghach" should be "laDghach ghItlhghach joq"; joq comes
          after the second noun (TKD p.55).  Also, this phrase is in
          the subject position, but the verb has the "vI-" prefix
          which indicates a subject of "I".  If the intent was "I
          certainly enjoy your help in reading and writing", it would
          be something like "laDghachvaD ghItlhghachvaD joq
          QaHghachraj vItIvbej".  Putting -meH on the verb makes the
          "purpose" meaning apply to the verb; thus vItIvbejmeH = "for
          the purpose of certainly enjoying".

          I welcome any corrections to my corrections!

          --nachHegh
          Mark_Nudelman@go.com

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