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Re: Complex sentences and question words
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU)
Mon Mar 7 12:20:36 1994
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From: "Kevin Wilson (DV 1994)" <sparks@minerva.cis.yale.edu>
To: "Klingon Language List" <tlhIngan-Hol@klingon.East.Sun.COM>
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 12:06:28 -0400 (EST)
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On Mon, 7 Mar 1994, Mark E. Shoulson wrote:
> Wow, I really flubbed it (I'm not going to pull out another replacement
> proverb, because it always takes forever to explain what it means to folks
> who don't have PK). Not only did I miss the fact that verbs of saying
> don't take "'e'" (it does say so, Kevin), but also the fact that Klingon
> doesn't do reported speech. Let's look at the relevant section: TKD
> 6.2.5, page 67.
>
> "Similarly, with verbs of saying (say, tell, ask, etc.), {'e'} and {net}
> are not used. The two phrases simply follow one another, in either order.
>
> qaja'pu' HIqaghQo'
> or HIqaghQo' qaja'pu'
>
> "This is literally _I told you, 'Don't interrupt me!'_ or _'Don't interrupt
> me' I told you_... An aspect marker... may always be attached to the verb
> of saying, regardless of whether it is the first or second verb."
>
> So we are told explicitly that verbs of saying don't take "'e'", and a very
> strong implication is made that Klingon quotes are always direct quotes. I
> made that mistake once in my translation of These Boots Are Made for
> Walkin'; it's not something that's easy to remember. But there it is;
> Klingon doesn't do reported speech.
>
> ~mark
>
Dear Mark,
Mea culpa! You have convinced me. Drat! I did so want to make
the distinction.
Kevin
