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Re: Adams Family Motto:

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU)
Wed Feb 9 20:31:49 1994

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From: Captain Krankor <krankor@codex.prds.cdx.mot.com>
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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 94 16:53:48 -0700


>Whoever dictated that the relative clause must have an explicit head noun?
>I've just read TKD section 6.2.3 very carefully and I find that its
>implications in no way could support an argument in favor of required
>explicit head nouns. (In all fairness, tho, the opposing argument has no
>support from this section either). So, its one of those
>your-guess-is-as-good-as-mine situations.
>
>In this case, the head noun is an implicit {chaH}. I see nothing wrong with
>that. But not being a grammarian, I must of course be totally open to any
>disagreements.

You are correct, there is nothing to require a head noun per se.
The evidence we have available suggests that -bogh verbs are
grammatically no different from other verbs, as far as subject,
objects, etc.  So, technically, there is no clear requirement to
have an explicit head noun.  I suspect, though, that in practice,
one probably usually wants to put in the explicit pronoun, just for
clarity sake.

The exception, of course, is when you need something to hang a noun
suffix on:

maHeghrupbogh maH           "we who are prepared to die"
    or just
maHeghrupbogh               "we who are prepared to die"

but:

maHeghrupbogh maHvo' nob    "a gift from us who are prepared to die"

                --Krankor


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