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daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU)
Wed Jan 26 01:39:11 1994

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1: There's been some debate over how to express certain chronological
elements. In particular, I have a useful solution for the following:

I sleep all night.  {qaStaHvIS ram naQ jIQong}
I went to sleep at nightfall.  {taghDI' ram jIQongchoH}

That ought to settle a bit of this discussion before it drags on to the point
of wearing intself out like some other topics that have been generated on
this list.

2: On active vs. stative verbs and which verbs are appropriate to use
adjectivally. We might just have to resort to our good old common sense.
{Doch tlha'} and {Suy nuQ} ("annoying merchant") seem OK to me. Let me also
remind once again of the canon {Ha'DIbaHmey meQ} for "burnt animals" as in
"Terrans enjoy eating burnt animals," from CK.

3: Another Klingonic anomaly I've dug up is the lack of a word equivalent to
"short." We have {tIq}, "be long," refering to physical objects, and {nI'},
"be long," refering to time periods. However, it's unusual that Klingon lacks
"be short."

A rendering of "short phaser" might come out as *{pu' tIqHa'}, or *{pu'
tIqbe'}, but I doubt this is correct usage, since a reading of TKD 4.4 on
Adjectives implies that only {-qu'} can be tacked onto an adjectival verb.

So, we're left with the wordy alternative {tIqHa'bogh pu'}. Oh, well. A
couple syllables until "be short" surfaces into the lexicon is barely worth
complaining about.


Guido#1, Leader of All Guidos


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