[2694] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: "SIy'ven"
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU)
Fri Jan 21 10:42:07 1994
Reply-To: "Klingon Language List" <tlhIngan-Hol@klingon.East.Sun.COM>
From: nsn@vis.mu.OZ.AU (Nick NICHOLAS)
To: "Klingon Language List" <tlhIngan-Hol@klingon.East.Sun.COM>
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 94 2:38:18 EDT
In-Reply-To: <01H7X3IVG4LE8Y7NCI@ALBION.BITNET>; from "FHOREIN@ALBION.Bitnet" a
t Jan 20, 94 8:48 pm
batlh choja', FHOREIN@ALBION.Bitnet quv:
Yes, Nicko dude rides up to kibbitz his grammar onto yet another unsuspecting
victim. Alice Cooper. The man used to give me nightmares when I was six. I
seem to recall him pulling a gun at the conclusion of some awards ceremony,
and of course didn't appreciate at the time how contrived an act it was.
When he made his comeback and said "I'm Alice Cooper on Take 40 Australia,
and you're all Trash", I said something like "Speak for yourself,
superannuated one."
Sorry. I guess some people (especially Tori Amos fans like me ;) ) don't get
it (like with charghwI's Harley Davidson), and... *shrug*.
=is the lack of the adjetive "please", which would have been
=placed before the "bIjach 'e' mev" (or as a suffex placed on
=the mev, in which case I would like Okrand to make it ryme
=with -taH).
Please? IN KLINGON?! To quote Worf, Klingons do NNNNAWT use words like...
Pllleasssse.... Exccccchhhuuuse me, or... thththththannnnkkk yououououou...
jItlhob, or yIta', are the best equivalents, if you need one, or just a
-neS on the imperative.
=bIghoS 'e' vIlegh neHbe'
=Daq qoSbogh jIHtaHvIS neHbe'
=vaj mInDu'wIjvo' Hoch vISo'
='ej SIbI' jIHvo' ghoSbe'
=yInlIjvaD wa' tup'e' neH DayInta'
=jInajqu'ba'taH bIjach 'e' mev
I take it there's some Clipped Klingon here? I'll backtranslate, so as
we can make sure what's up, but it is a good idea to append the original:
He don't want me to see you coming,
He doesn't want while I am being the place that gets birthday'd [This has
completely lost me]
So I hide everything from my eyes [Good phrase!]
and immediately he doesn't go from me [You may want another verb there]
You have lived only one minute for your life
Shut up while I dream ('e' vItlhob)
=bISoQ 'e' vIQoy 'e' par
=jIHvaD 'oy' nobbogh 'e' DaSovbe'
He hates me hearing you close[d] [?]
He doesn't know that the pain he has given to me [drop the 'e']
=SIy'ven
=SIy'ven pongwIj vIQoy
=SIy'ven muvanqu'taH'a' vay' pongwIj vIQoy
=SIy'ven ghoghHommey jatlhbogh vIlegh
= jachmey legh
I hear your name
someone keeps saluting me
I see the groups of voices spoken (jatlhlu'bogh is better)
He sees the screams [should be jachtaHghach]
=bIHegh vIneHqu'be'
='a yIn'e' nobta'bogh joH'a' 'oHchugh
=mInlIjDaq DeQmey vIlan
I really don't want you to die [vIneHbe'qu' makes more sense]
but if it was the life God gave [_the life_ should go before 'oHchugh)
in your eye I put credits [is this alluding to the old habit of coins
on the eyes of the dead? I'd suggest you invent a new Klingon custom here;
credits on the eyes won't work.]
='ej SIbI' SoHvo' ghoSbej'
=legh'a'
And immediately he certainly goes from you.
See? (I'd prefer qar'a')
='a ghogh vIQoybej lojmIt HurDaq 'oHtaH
But I certainly hear the voice; it's outside the door.
How'd I do?
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Nick Nicholas, Breather {le'o ko na rivbi fi'inai palci je tolvri danlu}
nsn@krang.vis.mu.oz.au -- Miguel Cervantes tr. Jorge LLambias
