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The pabpo' responds again

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU)
Thu Mar 26 12:47:13 1992

Errors-To: tlhIngan-Hol-request@village.boston.ma.us
Reply-To: "Klingon Language List" <tlhIngan-Hol@village.boston.ma.us>
From: Allan C. Wechsler <ACW@YUKON.SCRC.Symbolics.COM>
To: "Klingon Language List" <tlhIngan-Hol@village.boston.ma.us>
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1992 11:52-0500
In-Reply-To: <9203261030.AA06061@ima.ima.isc.com>


    Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1992 05:30 EST
    From: krankor@IMA.ISC.COM (Captain Krankor)

    Ok, now I have to respond to the responses {{:-)

    First, while the following sentence does me honor, it contains an error:

    pabpo'vamneS vItoy' 'e' muquvmoH!

    Can't use -neS like that, -neS is a verb suffix and pabpo'vam is
    clearly a noun.

mu'tay' vIqawlaH 'e' vIHarHa'pu'.  "Oops".

    Next: the fact that my whole thing on -ghach is technically no more
    than a theory is so obvious that I'm truly surprised that so much
    trouble was taken to examine it.  

Ah.  I was not clear on the "ground rules"; I am set straight.

    More stuff on -law':

	1) tlhInganpu'vaD mIghlaw' nuq?

[...]

    Consider:

    bIpIvHa'law'    "You look terrible." (You seem unhealthy)

    What exactly does the speaker mean here?  Let's name our two
    paradigms.  We'll call them the "strict" and the "loose" approaches.

[... Careful explanation of the strict and loose approach ...]

I accept the loose approach, that <-law'> can express a sort of general
doubt, not necessarily the speaker's.  And that does make me feel better
about (1).

	2) mungeDlaw'

I'll pursue this in a separate message, if I may.  I'm still not
pacified on this point.


    >In a noun-adjective construction, shouldn't the noun affixes go on the
    >noun?  More like <leSDaq puS>?

    No. Section 4.4, page 50, last paragraph.

Ah.  Right.

    jIHvam rap Dochvam.  jIyajchu'.

    "jIHvam"? jIyajbe'. "jIHvaD" DaneHlaw'pu' (?)

"jiHvaD" vIghItlh 'e' viHechbejpu'.

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