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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] when -laH cripples the -lu'

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (De'vID)
Mon Mar 18 17:44:55 2019

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Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2019 22:44:39 +0100
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On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 at 20:37, mayqel qunen'oS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:

> Suppose you wanted to write, a long passage with regards to the process of
> learning a foreign language. Starting from how often one should study, how
> one should study, the things one should avoid, etc..
>
> How would you approach it, without using the -lu' ?
>
> The only choices I can think of, are saying {vay'} and/or {ghojwI'}, and
> using them interchangeably. But I would avoid the - lu', if not for any
> other reason, at least in order to avoid hitting the simultaneous -laH/lu'
> obstacle.
>
> Would you approach this differently ?
>

Why wouldn't you just use {vay'}, and then subsequently use {ghaH} to refer
back to that person? The first mention of your hypothetical person might be
indefinite, but subsequent mentions aren't indefinite any more: they are
about the same someone you've already mentioned.

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<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 at 20:37, mayqel =
qunen&#39;oS &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com">mihkoun@gmail.com</a>=
&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px =
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:sans-serif">Suppose you wanted to write, a long passage with regards to th=
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ices I can think of, are saying {vay&#39;} and/or {ghojwI&#39;}, and using =
them interchangeably. But I would avoid the - lu&#39;, if not for any other=
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v>Why wouldn&#39;t you just use {vay&#39;}, and then subsequently use {ghaH=
} to refer back to that person? The first mention of your hypothetical pers=
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v>=C2=A0</div></div>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature">De&#3=
9;vID</div></div>

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