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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Klingon Word of the Day: roj

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (SuStel)
Mon Mar 18 17:41:20 2019

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On 3/18/2019 5:35 PM, De'vID wrote:
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> On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 at 16:30, SuStel <sustel@trimboli.name 
> <mailto:sustel@trimboli.name>> wrote:
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>     On 3/18/2019 11:05 AM, Steven Boozer wrote:
>>     Klingon had no word for peacemaker until the Klingons encountered deaf mediator Riva of Ramatis III, who helped negotiate several treaties between the Klingons and the Federation. Worf didn't view it as a compliment. (TNG "Loud as a Whisper")
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>     Which is obviously bunk, since *rojmoHwI'* is a pretty easy word
>     to figure out.
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> {rojmoHwI'} or {rojwI'}?

Either. I have always thought of *roj*/make peace/ to mean something 
like *marojpu'*/we made peace (with each other)./ The word doesn't seem 
like something you do to someone else. Therefore, the facilitator of our 
making peace is a *rojmoHwI'.*

But if *roj*/make peace/ means to cause peace to come into existence, 
without necessarily implying that you were the one not at peace before, 
then *rojwI'* would work.

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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/18/2019 5:35 PM, De'vID wrote:<br>
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          <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 at
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              <div class="gmail-m_8450739915915595138moz-cite-prefix">On
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                <pre class="gmail-m_8450739915915595138moz-quote-pre">Klingon had no word for peacemaker until the Klingons encountered deaf mediator Riva of Ramatis III, who helped negotiate several treaties between the Klingons and the Federation. Worf didn't view it as a compliment. (TNG "Loud as a Whisper")</pre>
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              <p>Which is obviously bunk, since <b>rojmoHwI'</b> is a
                pretty easy word to figure out. </p>
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          <div>{rojmoHwI'} or {rojwI'}? <br>
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    <p>Either. I have always thought of <b>roj</b><i> make peace</i> to
      mean something like <b>marojpu'</b><i> we made peace (with each
        other).</i> The word doesn't seem like something you do to
      someone else. Therefore, the facilitator of our making peace is a
      <b>rojmoHwI'.</b></p>
    <p>But if <b>roj</b><i> make peace</i> means to cause peace to come
      into existence, without necessarily implying that you were the one
      not at peace before, then <b>rojwI'</b> would work.<br>
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SuStel
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