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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] -meH with -pu'/-ta'

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (SuStel)
Wed Mar 13 11:34:40 2019

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On 3/13/2019 11:21 AM, nIqolay Q wrote:
> As for the original question, using {-meH} with {-pu'} or {-ta'} seems 
> like it would mean something like "in order to complete doing something".
>
> {paq vIlaDta'meH juHwIjDaq jIratlh.} "I stayed home to complete/finish 
> reading the book." I wanted to make "reading the book" a completed 
> action, so I stayed home. Something like that. It might not translate 
> easily into English but the usage makes sense.

Seems reasonable to me.

*paq vIlaDmeH juHwIjDaq jIratlh
*/I stay home to read the book/

*paq vIlaDta'meH juHwIjDaq jIratlh
*/I stay home to finish reading the book/

Though note that, lacking perfective on *jIratlh,* my remaining is not a 
completed action.

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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/13/2019 11:21 AM, nIqolay Q wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAG84SOvsqcLGqVa5PBJo5WxZW+ZUn7k59TAE91y_vN_gL0Pahg@mail.gmail.com">
      <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"
        class="gmail_default">As for the original question, using {-meH}
        with {-pu'} or {-ta'} seems like it would mean something like
        "in order to complete doing something".<br>
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      <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"
        class="gmail_default"><br>
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      <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"
        class="gmail_default">{paq vIlaDta'meH juHwIjDaq jIratlh.} "I
        stayed home to complete/finish reading the book." I wanted to
        make "reading the book" a completed action, so I stayed home.
        Something like that. It might not translate easily into English
        but the usage makes sense.</div>
    </blockquote>
    <p>Seems reasonable to me.</p>
    <p><b>paq vIlaDmeH juHwIjDaq jIratlh<br>
      </b><i>I stay home to read the book</i></p>
    <p><b>paq vIlaDta'meH juHwIjDaq jIratlh<br>
      </b><i>I stay home to finish reading the book</i></p>
    <p>Though note that, lacking perfective on <b>jIratlh,</b> my
      remaining is not a completed action.<br>
    </p>
    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- 
SuStel
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