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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Does rIntaH require a sentient being ?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (nIqolay Q)
Fri Mar 8 15:54:50 2019
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From: nIqolay Q <niqolay0@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2019 15:54:37 -0500
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On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 3:17 PM Will Martin <willmartin2@mac.com> wrote:
> {rIn} , pronounced =E2=80=9Creen=E2=80=9D was used to mark the end of com=
munication via
> radio in one of the movies.
>
For those playing along at home, it was used that way in the Morskan
listening post scene in ST6.
> {rIntaH} was used in ST3 in the line {qa=E2=80=99vam De=E2=80=99 vIje=E2=
=80=99 rIntaH} spoken by
> valQIS. I think this is the only time in canon that it has been used
>
No longer! It's used twice in the paq'batlh.
*ghIq Qo'noSDaq Qap rIntaH 'e' Sov qeylIS qotar lIjbe'*
*Then, the time came when Kahless saw That his work on Kronos was
done, He did not forget Kotar.*
(Canto *tlheDrup qeylIS*, book *paq'QIH*, I don't have page or line numbers
at the moment)
*porgh HoH wa' 'etlh qa' tlhabmoH wa' 'etlh tlhIngan choHlu' rIntaH*
*One blade to extinguish the physical life, One blade for freeing the
soul, The Klingon's transition was complete.*
(Canto *qeylIS Heghbat*, book *paq'QIH*)
In the second example, the verb doesn't even have an explicit subject,
sentient or otherwise, just a *-lu'*.
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"lt=
r" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 3:17 PM Will Martin <<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:willmartin2@mac.com">willmartin2@mac.com</a>> wrote:<br></=
div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;bor=
der-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style=3D"overflo=
w-wrap: break-word;"><div></div><div>{rIn} , pronounced =E2=80=9Creen=E2=80=
=9D was used to mark the end of communication via radio in one of the movie=
s.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div style=3D"font-family:ar=
ial,helvetica,sans-serif" class=3D"gmail_default">For those playing along a=
t home, it was used that way in the Morskan listening post scene in ST6.<br=
></div></div><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class=3D=
"gmail_default"></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px=
0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><di=
v style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div>{rIntaH} was used in ST3 in the=
line {qa=E2=80=99vam De=E2=80=99 vIje=E2=80=99 rIntaH} spoken by valQIS. I=
think this is the only time in canon that it has been used<br></div></div>=
</blockquote><div><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-=
serif" class=3D"gmail_default">No longer! It's used twice in the paq=
9;batlh.</div><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class=
=3D"gmail_default"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans=
-serif" class=3D"gmail_default"><b>ghIq Qo'noSDaq Qap rIntaH 'e'=
; Sov<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 qeylIS<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 qotar lIjbe'</=
b><br><br><i>Then, the time came when Kahless saw<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Tha=
t his work on Kronos was done,<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 He did not forget Kota=
r.</i><br><br>(Canto <b>tlheDrup qeylIS</b>, book <b>paq'QIH</b>, I don=
't have page or line numbers at the moment)<br><br><b>porgh HoH wa'=
'etlh<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 qa' tlhabmoH wa' 'etlh<br>=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 tlhIngan choHlu' rIntaH</b><br><br><i>One blade to exti=
nguish the physical life,<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 One blade for freeing the s=
oul,<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 The Klingon's transition was complete.</i><b=
r><br>(Canto <b>qeylIS Heghbat</b>, book <b>paq'QIH</b>)</div><div styl=
e=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class=3D"gmail_default"><br></=
div><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class=3D"gmail_de=
fault">In the second example, the verb doesn't even have an explicit su=
bject, sentient or otherwise, just a <b>-lu'</b>. <br></div></div></div=
></div>
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