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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Using -ta' during -taHvIS
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (De'vID)
Wed Feb 27 12:25:32 2019
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From: "De'vID" <de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 18:25:16 +0100
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On Tue, 26 Feb 2019 at 15:47, SuStel <sustel@trimboli.name> wrote:
> I get the feeling, from Okrand's translations as well as the text in TKD,
> that the second sentence of a sentence-as-object is supposed to be a fairly
> lightweight thing, not meant to carry the bulk of the meaning: "[*'e'*
> and *net*] are used primarily, though not exclusively, with verbs of
> thinking or observation (such as *know, see*)." When we go far afield
> from that, we strain the ability of the language to deliver the intended
> meaning.
>
I also get the feeling that {'e'} is overused (though {net} is perhaps
underused). Often, when I see a sentence on this mailing list written with
{'e'}, I think that Okrand would've written it as two grammatically
unconnected sentences.
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<div class=3D"gmail-m_-66148344963485613moz-cite-prefix">I get the feel=
ing, from Okrand's
translations as well as the text in TKD, that the second sentence
of a sentence-as-object is supposed to be a fairly lightweight
thing, not meant to carry the bulk of the meaning: "[<b>'e&#=
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and <b>net</b>] are used primarily, though not exclusively, with
verbs of thinking or observation (such as <i>know, see</i>)."
When we go far afield from that, we strain the ability of the
language to deliver the intended meaning.</div></div>
</blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"><div>I also get the feeling that {'=
;e'} is overused (though {net} is perhaps underused). Often, when I see=
a sentence on this mailing list written with {'e'}, I think that O=
krand would've written it as two grammatically unconnected sentences.</=
div><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature">De'=
;vID</div></div>
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