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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] negating adverbials
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Will Martin)
Mon Feb 25 14:04:11 2019
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From: Will Martin <willmartin2@mac.com>
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 14:04:06 -0500
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You are working really hard to avoid using the adverbial word {rut}...
charghwI=E2=80=99 vaghnerya=E2=80=99ngan
rInpa=E2=80=99 bomnIS be=E2=80=99=E2=80=99a=E2=80=99 pI=E2=80=99.
> On Feb 24, 2019, at 9:13 PM, Daniel Dadap <daniel@dadap.net> wrote:
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> This has probably been asked many times before, but I=E2=80=99m going =
to ask=E2=80=A6
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> How does one negate an adverbial like {reH} or {tlhoy}?
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> While writing closed captions for a video I recently recorded [1], I =
realized that I apparently tried to do this by negating the verb, but I =
have no idea if that actually works. The two examples where it came up =
were:
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> {reH qaSbe'}
> {tlhoy nI'be' HaSta tavam 'e' vItul}
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> The intended meanings were =E2=80=9CIt didn=E2=80=99t always happen=E2=80=
=9D and =E2=80=9CI hope this visual record is not too long=E2=80=9D, =
respectively, but upon review, it seems like out of context (maybe even =
in context) they mean =E2=80=9Cit always didn=E2=80=99t happen=E2=80=9D =
and =E2=80=9CI hope this visual record is too not long=E2=80=9D, =
respectively.
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> So=E2=80=A6 what would have been the right way to say those things? Or =
is this another thing we don=E2=80=99t know yet?
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> [1] https://youtu.be/-fig0BJloKA <https://youtu.be/-fig0BJloKA> - I =
know there are a lot of mistakes in it, but I recorded it completely on =
the fly and in one take. reH latlh qabDaa qul tuj law' Hoch tuj puS. I =
was inspired by DeSDu', who made this great video: =
https://youtu.be/terzWQPPkf0 =
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DterzWQPPkf0>___________________________=
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class=3D"">You are working really hard to avoid using the adverbial word =
{rut}...</div><br class=3D""><div class=3D"">
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<div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Feb 24, 2019, at 9:13 PM, Daniel Dadap <<a =
href=3D"mailto:daniel@dadap.net" class=3D"">daniel@dadap.net</a>> =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><meta =
http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8" =
class=3D""><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">This has probably been asked =
many times before, but I=E2=80=99m going to ask=E2=80=A6<div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">How =
does one negate an adverbial like {reH} or {tlhoy}?</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">While writing closed =
captions for a video I recently recorded [1], I realized that I =
apparently tried to do this by negating the verb, but I have no idea if =
that actually works. The two examples where it came up were:</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">{reH qaSbe'}</div><div =
class=3D"">{tlhoy nI'be' HaSta tavam 'e' vItul}</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">The intended meanings were =E2=80=9CIt =
didn=E2=80=99t always happen=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9CI hope this visual =
record is not too long=E2=80=9D, respectively, but upon review, it seems =
like out of context (maybe even in context) they mean =E2=80=9Cit always =
didn=E2=80=99t happen=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9CI hope this visual record is =
too not long=E2=80=9D, respectively.</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">So=E2=80=A6 what would have been the =
right way to say those things? Or is this another thing we don=E2=80=99t =
know yet?</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">[1] <a href=3D"https://youtu.be/-fig0BJloKA" =
class=3D"">https://youtu.be/-fig0BJloKA</a> - I know there are a =
lot of mistakes in it, but I recorded it completely on the fly and in =
one take. reH latlh qabDaa qul tuj law' Hoch tuj puS. I was inspired by =
DeSDu', who made this great video: <a =
href=3D"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DterzWQPPkf0" =
class=3D"">https://youtu.be/terzWQPPkf0</a></div></div>___________________=
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