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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] suffix {-qang} and {-Qo'}
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steven Boozer)
Fri Oct 20 03:15:46 2017
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From: Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu>
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Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2017 20:36:24 +0000
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All the examples I know of -Qo' used with another suffix:
bIjatlhQo'chugh
if you refuse to speak. (TKD)
choja'Qo'chugh
if you won't tell me, if you refuse to tell me (TKD)
bISaqQo'chugh vaj bIHegh (STID)
HIHoHvIpQo'
don't be afraid to kill me! (TKD)
'ang'eghQo' quv Hutlhbogh jagh neH ghobtaHvIS ghaH
Only an enemy without honor refuses to show himself in battle. (TKW)
quv HIja'chuqQo'
Don't speak to me of honor. (PB)
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Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
-----Original Message-----
From: tlhIngan-Hol [mailto:tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org] On Behalf Of=
SuStel
On 10/19/2017 3:42 PM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
> If I write {qaQaHqangQo'}, then what does it mean ?
>
> Does it mean "I am willing to refuse to help you", or "I refuse to be
> willing to help you" ? Or does it mean both ?
Your question is really asking, do suffixes apply in a particular order?
The answer is: yes, no, and maybe. Sometimes it seems to matter, sometimes =
it doesn't. What's important is that your reader or listener can understand=
what you say. If you're not sure they can, rephrase.
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">All the examples I know of <b>-Qo'</b> used with ano=
ther suffix:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>bIjatlhQo'chugh</b> <br>
if you refuse to speak. (TKD)<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>choja'Qo'chugh</b> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">if you won't tell me, if you refuse to tell me (TKD)=
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><o:p> </o:p></b></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>bISaqQo'chugh vaj bIHegh</b> (STID)<br>
<br>
<b><o:p></o:p></b></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>HIHoHvIpQo'</b> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">don't be afraid to kill me! (TKD)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><o:p> </o:p></b></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>'ang'eghQo' quv Hutlhbogh jagh neH ghobtaHvIS gha=
H</b> <o:p>
</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Only an enemy without honor refuses to show himself =
in battle. (TKW)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>quv HIja'chuqQo'<o:p></o:p></b></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Don't speak to me of honor. (PB)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br>
--<br>
Voragh<br>
<i>Ca'Non Master of the Klingons</i><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: tlhIngan-Hol [mailto:tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org] On Behalf Of=
SuStel<br>
<br>
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<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">On 10/19/2017 3:42 PM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:<o:p>=
</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">> If I write {qaQaHqangQo'}, then what does it=
mean ?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">> Does it mean "I am willing to refuse to=
help you", or "I refuse to be
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">> willing to help you" ? Or does it mean =
both ?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Your question is really asking, do suffixes apply=
in a particular order?
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">The answer is: yes, no, and maybe. Sometimes it s=
eems to matter, sometimes it doesn't. What's important is that your reader =
or listener can understand what you say. If you're not sure they can, rephr=
ase.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">--<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">SuStel<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><a href=3D"http://trimboli.name"><span style=3D"c=
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