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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Placement of the adverb
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (SuStel)
Wed Oct 11 14:31:10 2017
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Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2017 09:41:54 -0400
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On 10/11/2017 9:26 AM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
> So, if I understand correctly, the grammatically correct sentence is
> {paq vIlaDtaHvIS, pIj jIHagh}. Right ?
>
> Because I was wondering which of these two sentences was right, and
> which was wrong. Although as I understand, placing the {pIj} right
> before the {paq vIlaDtaHvIS}, isn't actually wrong, but rather
> something which would occur more often while speaking as opposed to
> writing.
>
> If I understand correctly your reply, in order to be grammatically
> correct, the adverb has to be placed right before the verb to which it
> refers (in our examples the {jIHagh}).
>
> Are these conclusions correct ?
Formally, a dependent clause should not split an adverbial from its
sentence, so far as we can tell.
If you did it anyway I don't think anyone would care.
And adverbials are said to come at the front of a sentence, not in front
of a verb's object, so who knows? Maybe *paq vIlaDtaHvIS jIHagh* is the
sentence, and you can put an adverbial in front of THAT.
Focus on that, rather than on what's "right" and "wrong." It's not down
to right and wrong.
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/11/2017 9:26 AM, mayqel qunenoS
wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:CAP7F2cLi3Ny=K6W2my9jtA3Ctxtw5kSH393-xWnYz4-pCO3hnA@mail.gmail.com">So,
if I understand correctly, the grammatically correct sentence is
{paq vIlaDtaHvIS, pIj jIHagh}. Right ?
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<div dir="auto">Because I was wondering which of these two
sentences was right, and which was wrong. Although as I
understand, placing the {pIj} right before the {paq
vIlaDtaHvIS}, isn't actually wrong, but rather something which
would occur more often while speaking as opposed to writing.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">If I understand correctly your reply, in order to
be grammatically correct, the adverb has to be placed right
before the verb to which it refers (in our examples the
{jIHagh}).</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Are these conclusions correct ?</div>
</blockquote>
<p>Formally, a dependent clause should not split an adverbial from
its sentence, so far as we can tell.<br>
</p>
<p>If you did it anyway I don't think anyone would care.</p>
<p>And adverbials are said to come at the front of a sentence, not
in front of a verb's object, so who knows? Maybe <b>paq
vIlaDtaHvIS jIHagh</b> is the sentence, and you can put an
adverbial in front of THAT. <br>
</p>
<p>Focus on that, rather than on what's "right" and "wrong." It's
not down to right and wrong.<br>
</p>
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