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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Saying I'm not there
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Alan Anderson)
Sun Oct 8 19:46:10 2017
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From: Alan Anderson <qunchuy@alcaco.net>
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2017 18:29:46 -0400
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On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 11:19 AM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
> If we want to say "I am there" we write {pa' jIHtaH}.
>
> But if we want to say "I am not there", what do we write ?
>
> {pa' jIHbe'} or {pa' jIHbe'taH} ?
>
> mayqel q
>
The Klingon Dictionary's appendix of Useful Klingon Expressions includes
this example:
"I wasn't there." {pa' jIHpu'be'}
If you want to use an aspect suffix, this shows the {-be'} following one.
If you're prepared to base further discussion on what exactly the
distinction in meaning is between {-be'pu'} vs. {-pu'be'} or {-taHbe'} vs.
{-be'taH}, then I think you have hit on the best answer: choose your words
based on what you want them to mean.
-- ghunchu'wI'
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On F=
ri, Oct 6, 2017 at 11:19 AM, mayqel qunenoS <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=
=3D"mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">mihkoun@gmail.com</a>></=
span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8e=
x;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">If we want=
to say "I am there" we write {pa' jIHtaH}.<div dir=3D"auto">=
<br></div><div dir=3D"auto">But if we want to say "I am not there"=
;, what do we write ?</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">{p=
a' jIHbe'} or {pa' jIHbe'taH} ?</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br>=
</div><div dir=3D"auto">mayqel q</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><di=
v>The Klingon Dictionary's appendix of Useful Klingon Expressions inclu=
des this example:<br>"I wasn't there." {pa' jIHpu'be&=
#39;}<br><br>If you want to use an aspect suffix, this shows the {-be'}=
following one.<br><br>If you're prepared to base further discussion on=
what exactly the distinction in meaning is between {-be'pu'} vs. {=
-pu'be'} or {-taHbe'} vs. {-be'taH}, then I think you have =
hit on the best answer: choose your words based on what you want them to me=
an.<br><br>-- ghunchu'wI'</div></div></div></div>
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