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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Saying I'm not there
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (mayqel qunenoS)
Sat Oct 7 12:16:07 2017
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From: mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2017 19:47:29 +0300
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Initially, I thought of saying {pa' jIHtaHbe'}, but I got the impression
that it would mean "I'm not there continuously" i.e. "I'm there, but not
continuously".
But since this isn't the case, I'm happy.
mayqel q
On Oct 6, 2017 18:35, "Steven Boozer" <sboozer@uchicago.edu> wrote:
> mayqel qunenoS
> >> If we want to say "I am there" we write {pa' jIHtaH}.
>
> >> But if we want to say "I am not there", what do we write ?
>
> >>
>
> >> {pa' jIHbe'} or {pa' jIHbe'taH} ?
>
>
> Neither. Write *pa=E2=80=99 jIHtaHbe=E2=80=99* =E2=80=9CI=E2=80=99m not =
there=E2=80=9D which is a (neutral)
> statement of fact/location. E.g.
>
>
>
> * qepHomDaq jIHtaHbe'. Saghal.*
> [untranslated greeting from MO to qepHOM 2013]
>
> I=E2=80=99ve never seen an example of [PRONOUN]*be=E2=80=99taH*. If anyt=
hing, *pa=E2=80=99
> jIHbe=E2=80=99taH *might mean =E2=80=9CI=E2=80=99m still not there=E2=80=
=9D implying continuous absence
> over some time.
>
>
>
> --
> Voragh
> Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
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<div dir=3D"auto">Initially, I thought of saying {pa' jIHtaHbe'}, b=
ut I got the impression that it would mean "I'm not there continuo=
usly" i.e. "I'm there, but not continuously".<div dir=3D=
"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">But since this isn't the case, I'=
;m happy.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">mayqel q</div>=
</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Oct 6, 2=
017 18:35, "Steven Boozer" <<a href=3D"mailto:sboozer@uchicago=
.edu">sboozer@uchicago.edu</a>> wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquo=
te class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc so=
lid;padding-left:1ex">
<div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"#0563C1" vlink=3D"#954F72">
<div class=3D"m_-6464273261293742487WordSection1">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif">mayqel qunenoS<br>
</span>>> If we want to say "I am there" we write {pa' =
jIHtaH}.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">>> But if we want to say "I am not there&=
quot;, what do we write ?<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">>><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0{pa' jIHbe'} or {=
pa' jIHbe'taH} ?<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><br>
Neither.=C2=A0 Write <b>pa=E2=80=99 jIHtaHbe=E2=80=99</b> =E2=80=9CI=E2=80=
=99m not there=E2=80=9D which is a (neutral) statement of fact/location.=C2=
=A0 E.g.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>=C2=A0 qepHomDaq jIHtaHbe'.=C2=A0 Saghal.</b>=
<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0[untranslated greeting from MO to qepHOM 2013]<br>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;=
color:#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I=E2=80=99ve never seen an example of=
[PRONOUN]<b>be=E2=80=99taH</b>.=C2=A0 If anything,
<b>pa=E2=80=99 jIHbe=E2=80=99taH </b>might mean =E2=80=9CI=E2=80=99m still =
not there=E2=80=9D implying continuous absence over some time.<u></u><u></u=
></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">--<br>
Voragh<br>
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
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