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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] qepHom grammar questions

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (De'vID)
Fri Oct 6 04:31:14 2017

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Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2017 08:42:45 +0200
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On 4 October 2017 at 18:23, Lawrence M. Schoen <klingonguy@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 11:46 AM, qurgh lungqIj <qurgh@wizage.net> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 11:41 AM, Lawrence M. Schoen <klingonguy@gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> DujwIj wejDIch - Out of the collection of ships that are mine, the third
>>> one is the topic
>>>
>>
> You make a compelling argument. And I confess I just popped into the
> middle of this thread so I'll yield to your assertion that "the third one
> is the topic"
>
> And yet, as has been pointed out, a number (in this case, an ordinal
> number) is a noun. So I have to disagree with your point that you "don't
> posses [sic] the "third" though, you posses [sic] the ship."
>
> Duj wejDIchwIj - there are many ships, but third one is mine.
>

But that's not even what "my third ship" means in English. It means "I have
multiple ships, and I'm singling out the third one for consideration". If
there are many ships, and the third one is mine (but the first one is hers
and the second one is yours), it's not my third ship we're talking about.

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te">On 4 October 2017 at 18:23, Lawrence M. Schoen <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:klingonguy@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">klingonguy@gmail.co=
m</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margi=
n:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">=
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><span class=3D"">=
On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 11:46 AM, qurgh lungqIj <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:qurgh@wizage.net" target=3D"_blank">qurgh@wizage.net</a>&gt;</s=
pan> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex=
;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=
=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><span>On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 11=
:41 AM, Lawrence M. Schoen <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:klingong=
uy@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">klingonguy@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<=
blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px=
 #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><=
div class=3D"gmail_quote"><span><div>DujwIj wejDIch - Out of the collection=
 of ships that are mine, the third one is the topic<br></div></span></div><=
/div></div></blockquote></span></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></di=
v></span><div>You make a compelling argument. And I confess I just popped i=
nto the middle of this thread so I&#39;ll yield to your assertion that &quo=
t;the third one is the topic&quot;<br><br>And yet, as has been pointed out,=
 a number (in this case, an ordinal number) is a noun. So I have to disagre=
e with your point that you &quot;don&#39;t posses [sic] the &quot;third&quo=
t; though, you posses [sic] the ship.&quot;<br><br>Duj wejDIchwIj - there a=
re many ships, but third one is mine.<br></div></div></div></div></blockquo=
te></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div>But that&#39;s not even what =
&quot;my third ship&quot; means in English. It means &quot;I have multiple =
ships, and I&#39;m singling out the third one for consideration&quot;. If t=
here are many ships, and the third one is mine (but the first one is hers a=
nd the second one is yours), it&#39;s not my third ship we&#39;re talking a=
bout.<br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div class=3D"gmail_signature"=
 data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature">De&#39;vID</div>
</div></div>

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