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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] qepHom grammar questions
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (nIqolay Q)
Thu Oct 5 07:56:06 2017
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From: nIqolay Q <niqolay0@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2017 12:00:56 -0400
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On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 4:58 AM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
> It is highly unlikely, that a mere mortal -i.e. someone who isn't a friend
> of maltz-, would ask and his question would be answered..
>
> However, since even us -the little people-, are allowed to dream, I would
> like to ask that these questions are eventually clarified at the qepHom to
> come..
>
> 1. the prefix of a verb, which follows {joq}, if both nouns joined by it
> are singular.
> 2. the prefix of a verb, which follows {joq}, if one of the nouns is
> plural.
> 3. the {ngIq}.
> 4. the {vabDot} (although I'm not quite certain, that the clarification
> needed here, is with regards to the grammar, or its meaning).
> 5. {Duj wejwIjDIch} or {DujwIj wejDIch} ?
> 6. Can we have two {qu'} or two {be'} on the same word ?
>
I have a question of my own I'd like to ask: how far does the prefix trick
stretch? Can it only be used with some verbs or some meanings of *-vaD*? Or
is any use of *-vaD* eligible (provided all the relevant nouns are in the
correct person)? For instance, do these work:
*bangwI', SoHvaD wa'SaD SuvwI' vIHoHqang* -> *bangwI', wa'SaD SuvwI'
qaHoHqang **"My love, I'd kill a thousand warriors for you."*
*jIHvaD DuSaQwIj Deq qawmoH qachvetlh* -> *DuSaQwIj Deq muqawmoH
qachvetlh* *"That
building reminds me of my old school."*
*jIHvaD qab tera'ngan Soj 'Iq* -> *muqab tera'ngan Soj 'Iq* *"Too much
Terran food is bad for me."* (*chaq DaH jIwoghpu'...*)
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<div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 4:58 AM, mayqel qunenoS <span dir=
=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">mihkoun=
@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8=
ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">It is hig=
hly unlikely, that a mere mortal -i.e. someone who isn't a friend of ma=
ltz-, would ask and his question would be answered..=C2=A0<div dir=3D"auto"=
><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">However, since even us -the little people-, ar=
e allowed to dream, I would like to ask that these questions are eventually=
clarified at the qepHom to come..<div dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"auto"><br><=
/div><div dir=3D"auto">1. the prefix of a verb, which follows {joq}, if bot=
h nouns joined by it are singular.</div><div dir=3D"auto">2. the prefix of =
a verb, which follows {joq}, if one of the nouns is plural.</div><div dir=
=3D"auto">3. the {ngIq}.</div><div dir=3D"auto">4. the {vabDot} (although I=
'm not quite certain, that the clarification needed here, is with regar=
ds to the grammar, or its meaning).</div><div dir=3D"auto">5. {Duj wejwIjDI=
ch} or {DujwIj wejDIch} ?</div><div dir=3D"auto">6. Can we have two {qu'=
;} or two {be'} on the same word ?<br></div></div></div></div></blockqu=
ote><div><br></div><div>I have a question of my own I'd like to ask: ho=
w far does the prefix trick stretch? Can it only be used with some verbs or=
some meanings of <b>-vaD</b>? Or is any use of <b>-vaD</b> eligible (provi=
ded all the relevant nouns are in the correct person)? For instance, do the=
se work:</div><div><b>bangwI', SoHvaD wa'SaD SuvwI' vIHoHqang</=
b> -> <b>bangwI', wa'SaD SuvwI' qaHoHqang </b><i>"My lo=
ve, I'd kill a thousand warriors for you."</i><br></div><div><b>jI=
HvaD DuSaQwIj Deq qawmoH qachvetlh</b> -> <b>DuSaQwIj Deq muqawmoH qachv=
etlh</b> <i>"That building reminds me of my old school."</i></div=
><div><b>jIHvaD qab tera'ngan Soj 'Iq</b> -> <b>muqab tera'n=
gan Soj 'Iq</b> <i>"Too much Terran food is bad for me."</i> =
(<b>chaq DaH jIwoghpu'...</b>)<br></div><div><br></div></div><br></div>=
</div>
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