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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] What Maltz does: {'otHa'}
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (SuStel)
Sat Sep 30 19:00:59 2017
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On 9/30/2017 6:41 PM, De'vID wrote:
> On 28 September 2017 at 19:38, SuStel <sustel@trimboli.name
> <mailto:sustel@trimboli.name>> wrote:
>
> Whatever the verb is, we've got a few of them in Klingon.
>
> *tagh*
>
> *taghbej mu'qaDveS
> */Curse warfare has definitely begun. /(CK)
>
> *Qu' DataghDI' 'aqtu' mellota' je tIqaw*/
> When you begin a mission, remember Aktuh and Melota. /(TKW)
>
> *mev*
>
> *not mev peghmey
> */Secrets never cease. /(PK)
>
> *bIjatlh 'e' yImev
> */Shut up!/ (PK)
>
> *meQ*
>
> *Ha'DIbaHmey meQ Sop 'e' tIv tera'nganpu'
> */Terrans enjoy eating burnt animals./ (CK, but notice the
> missing *lu-* on *tIv*)
>
> *to'waQ meQ vutwI'
> */The cook burns the tendon./ (KGT)
>
> And you've noticed *pegh.* There may be others I can't remember
> right now. There are also a lot of verbs whose transitivity we
> don't know, like *DIng* /spin /and *chagh*/drop./
>
> Some other verbs of this type (where the presence or absence of an
> object changes the role of the subject) that I know of are:
>
> {Don} v. be parallel, go parallel to
> {ghom} v. meet, encounter, assemble, rendezvous
> {So'} v. hide, cloak
And it's no coincidence that the ones that do it in Klingon are also the
ones that do it in their English definitions...
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/30/2017 6:41 PM, De'vID wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CA+7zAmN5XU_fDEWWUQe-tY9v-PkFzb9vUVGPB_x=VbhgD_Doug@mail.gmail.com">
<div class="gmail_quote">On 28 September 2017 at 19:38, SuStel <span
dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sustel@trimboli.name"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">sustel@trimboli.name</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div class="gmail-m_5381979635292971946moz-cite-prefix">Whatever
the verb is, we've got a few of them in Klingon.<br>
</div>
</span>
<p><b>tagh</b></p>
<blockquote>
<p><b>taghbej mu'qaDveS<br>
</b><i>Curse warfare has definitely begun. </i>(CK)</p>
<b>Qu' DataghDI' 'aqtu' mellota' je tIqaw</b><i><br>
When you begin a mission, remember Aktuh and Melota. </i>(TKW)</blockquote>
<p><b>mev</b></p>
<blockquote>
<p><b>not mev peghmey<br>
</b><i>Secrets never cease. </i>(PK)</p>
<p><b>bIjatlh 'e' yImev<br>
</b><i>Shut up!</i> (PK)</p>
</blockquote>
<p><b>meQ</b></p>
<blockquote>
<p><b>Ha'DIbaHmey meQ Sop 'e' tIv tera'nganpu'<br>
</b><i>Terrans enjoy eating burnt animals.</i> (CK, but
notice the missing <b>lu-</b> on <b>tIv</b>)</p>
<p><b>to'waQ meQ vutwI'<br>
</b><i>The cook burns the tendon.</i> (KGT)</p>
</blockquote>
<p>And you've noticed <b>pegh.</b> There may be others I
can't remember right now. There are also a lot of verbs
whose transitivity we don't know, like <b>DIng</b> <i>spin
</i>and <b>chagh</b><i> drop.</i></p>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra">Some other verbs of this type (where the
presence or absence of an object changes the role of the
subject) that I know of are:</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra">{Don} v. be parallel, go parallel to</div>
<div class="gmail_extra">{ghom} v. <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">meet,
encounter, assemble, rendezvous</span></div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">{So'} v.
hide, cloak</span></div>
</blockquote>
<p>And it's no coincidence that the ones that do it in Klingon are
also the ones that do it in their English definitions...<br>
</p>
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