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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] DSC Klingon Trailer transcription (NOT offlist)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (mayqel qunenoS)
Sat Sep 30 06:05:58 2017
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Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 22:58:36 +0300
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I agree. It has to be {wInobmeH}. The {DInobmeH} makes no sense.
qunnoq
On Sep 29, 2017 22:56, "SuStel" <sustel@trimboli.name> wrote:
> Whatever the transcript says, I'm pretty sure I hear *wInobmeH.*
>
> On 9/29/2017 3:42 PM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
>
> Unless someone intended it as a prefix trick, but the prefix trick can't
> be used in such a way.
>
> qunnoq
>
> On Sep 29, 2017 22:04, "mayqel qunenoS" <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> > may' luqotlhbogh DInobmeH
>>
>> Shouldn't this be {wInobmeH} ? Or is the intended meaning "in order to
>> give the battles" ? But again, this can't be the case, since we have a
>> {lu-} on the {qotlhbogh}.
>>
>> qunnoq
>>
>> On Sep 29, 2017 21:55, "De'vID" <de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't think it matters that this isn't offlist, since the trailer is
>>> public.
>>>
>>> The makers of that video cut off the wrong part of the first sentence.
>>> They apparently intended to cut out the reference to Donatu V, but what
>>> they did was they cut out the *temporally* corresponding part (at the e=
nd)
>>> of the sentence rather than the *semantically* corresponding part (at t=
he
>>> beginning). If they had just listened to their cut they'd have realised
>>> that the sentence starts with {Do'natu vagh...} So frustrating, though =
I
>>> doubt it can be fixed now that it's been released.
>>>
>>> Here's the transcript:
>>>
>>> We have become complacent in the time since we last battled [the
>>> Federation at Donatu V].
>>> {Do'natu vaghDaq DIvI' wIlulpu' 'a qaStaHvIS poH [veb mayonchoHchu'pu']=
}
>>>
>>> They come to destroy our individuality.
>>> {mapIm ngIq maH 'e' luQaw'meH ghoS chaH}
>>>
>>> Great leaders, look to the stars...
>>> {DevwI''a'pu', Hov tIbejchoH...}
>>>
>>> Our destiny has arrived.
>>> {pawpu' Sanmaj.}
>>>
>>> Fire!
>>> {baH!}
>>>
>>> Shall we rise up together and give them the fight they deserve?
>>> {may' luqotlhbogh DInobmeH matay'taHvIS mavangrup'a'?}
>>>
>>> Remain Klingon!
>>> {tlhIngan maH! taHjaj!}
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sep 28, 2017 16:21, "Steven Boozer" <sboozer@uchicago.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>> Unfortunately my computer can=E2=80=99t play sounds. Have you transcri=
bed the
>>> Klingon for the rest of that YouTube trailer? From what=E2=80=99s been=
posted on
>>> the list so far I have:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "We have become complacent in the time since we last battled."
>>>
>>> *mapIm ngIq maH 'e' luQaw'meH ghoS chaH. *
>>>
>>> "They come to destroy our individuality."
>>>
>>> *DevwI''a'pu', Hov tIbejchoH*
>>>
>>> "Great leaders, look to the stars=E2=80=A6
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *=E2=80=A6 [---] Sanmaj *(?)
>>>
>>> =E2=80=A6 our destiny has arrived."
>>>
>>> *baH!* [I assume}
>>>
>>> "Fire!" [various battle scenes]
>>>
>>>
>>> "Shall we rise up together and give them the fight they deserve?"
>>>
>>> * tlhIngan maH! taHjaj!*
>>> "Remain Klingon!"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Voragh
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> *From:* De'vID
>>>
>>> Get to practising, then. The line you're listening for is {DevwI''a'pu'=
,
>>> Hov tIbejchoH}, subtitled "Great leaders, look to the stars".
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DNZEQVw3uV9M
>>>
>>>
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<div dir=3D"auto">I agree. It has to be {wInobmeH}. The {DInobmeH} makes no=
sense.<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">qunnoq</div></div><div=
class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sep 29, 2017 22:56=
, "SuStel" <<a href=3D"mailto:sustel@trimboli.name">sustel@tri=
mboli.name</a>> wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmai=
l_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left=
:1ex">
=20
=20
=20
<div text=3D"#000000" bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF">
<div class=3D"m_-4185717298460169177moz-cite-prefix">
<p>Whatever the transcript says, I'm pretty sure I hear <b>wInobm=
eH.</b><br>
</p>
<br>
On 9/29/2017 3:42 PM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div dir=3D"auto">Unless someone intended it as a prefix trick, but
the prefix trick can't be used in such a way.
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">qunnoq</div>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sep 29, 2017 22:04, "mayqel qune=
noS"
<<a href=3D"mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">mihkou=
n@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br type=3D"attribution">
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bord=
er-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"auto">>=C2=A0<span style=3D"font-family:sans-ser=
if;font-size:13.696px">may'
luqotlhbogh DInobmeH</span>
<div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-=
size:13.696px"><br>
</span></div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-=
size:13.696px">Shouldn't
this be {wInobmeH} ? Or is the intended meaning "in
order to give the battles" ? But again, this can'=
;t be
the case, since we have a {lu-} on the {qotlhbogh}.</span=
></div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-=
size:13.696px"><br>
</span></div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-=
size:13.696px">qunnoq</span></div>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sep 29, 2017 21:55, "De=
9;vID"
<<a href=3D"mailto:de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com" target=3D"_b=
lank">de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br type=3D"attribution">
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8e=
x;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"auto">
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div>I don't think it matters that this isn't
offlist, since the trailer is public.=C2=A0</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">The makers of that video cut off the
wrong part of the first sentence. They apparently
intended to cut out the reference to Donatu V, but
what they did was they cut out the *temporally*
corresponding part (at the end) of the sentence
rather than the *semantically* corresponding part
(at the beginning). If they had just listened to
their cut they'd have realised that the sentence
starts with {Do'natu vagh...} So frustrating,
though I doubt it can be fixed now that it's been
released.</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">Here's the transcript:</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">
<div dir=3D"auto">We have become complacent in the
time since we last battled [the Federation at
Donatu V].</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">{Do'natu vaghDaq DIvI' wIlu=
lpu' 'a
qaStaHvIS poH [veb mayonchoHchu'pu']}</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">They come to destroy our
individuality.</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">{mapIm ngIq maH 'e' luQaw&#=
39;meH ghoS
chaH}</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">Great leaders, look to the
stars...</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">{DevwI''a'pu', Hov =
tIbejchoH...}</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">Our destiny has arrived.</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">{pawpu' Sanmaj.}</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">Fire!</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">{baH!}</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">Shall we rise up together and give
them the fight they deserve?</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">{may' luqotlhbogh DInobmeH
matay'taHvIS mavangrup'a'?}</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">Remain Klingon!</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">{tlhIngan maH! taHjaj!}</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra" dir=3D"auto"><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sep 28, 2017 16:21,
"Steven Boozer" <<a href=3D"mailto:s=
boozer@uchicago.edu" target=3D"_blank">sboozer@uchicago.edu</a>>
wrote:<br type=3D"attribution">
<blockquote class=3D"m_-4185717298460169177m_-922=
3127080396294445m_7081311252955621788quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bord=
er-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple" lang=3D"EN-=
US">
<div class=3D"m_-4185717298460169177m_-922312=
7080396294445m_7081311252955621788m_-6972055849190419467WordSection1">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-=
size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Unfor=
tunately
my computer can=E2=80=99t play sounds.=
=C2=A0 Have
you transcribed the Klingon for the
rest of that YouTube trailer?=C2=A0 Fro=
m
what=E2=80=99s been posted on the list =
so
far I have:</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-=
size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">=C2=
=A0</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-=
size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">=C2=
=A0</span></p>
<p class=3D"m_-4185717298460169177m_-922312=
7080396294445m_7081311252955621788m_-6972055849190419467MsoPlainText"><span=
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">"We have
become complacent in the time since
we last battled."<br>
<br>
<b><span style=3D"color:red">mapIm
ngIq maH 'e' luQaw'meH =
ghoS
chaH. </span></b></span></p>
<p class=3D"m_-4185717298460169177m_-922312=
7080396294445m_7081311252955621788m_-6972055849190419467MsoPlainText"><span=
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">"They come
to destroy our individuality."
<br>
<br>
</span><b><span style=3D"color:red">DevwI=
''a'pu',
Hov tIbejchoH</span></b><span style=
=3D"font-size:11.0pt"></span></p>
<p class=3D"m_-4185717298460169177m_-922312=
7080396294445m_7081311252955621788m_-6972055849190419467MsoPlainText"><span=
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">"Great
leaders, look to the stars=E2=80=A6
</span></p>
<p class=3D"m_-4185717298460169177m_-922312=
7080396294445m_7081311252955621788m_-6972055849190419467MsoPlainText"><span=
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">=C2=A0</span></p>
<p class=3D"m_-4185717298460169177m_-922312=
7080396294445m_7081311252955621788m_-6972055849190419467MsoPlainText"><b><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:red">=E2=80=A6
[---] Sanmaj
</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.=
0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">(?)</span><b>=
<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:red"></span></b></p>
<p class=3D"m_-4185717298460169177m_-922312=
7080396294445m_7081311252955621788m_-6972055849190419467MsoPlainText"><span=
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">=E2=80=A6 our
destiny has arrived."<br>
<br>
</span></p>
<p class=3D"m_-4185717298460169177m_-922312=
7080396294445m_7081311252955621788m_-6972055849190419467MsoPlainText"><b><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:red">baH!</span></b><span style=3D"font=
-size:11.0pt">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 [I
assume}</span></p>
<p class=3D"m_-4185717298460169177m_-922312=
7080396294445m_7081311252955621788m_-6972055849190419467MsoPlainText"><span=
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">"Fire!"=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
[various battle scenes]</span></p>
<p class=3D"m_-4185717298460169177m_-922312=
7080396294445m_7081311252955621788m_-6972055849190419467MsoPlainText"><span=
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt"><br>
"Shall we rise up together and giv=
e
them the fight they deserve?"<br>
<b><span style=3D"color:red"><br>
tlhIngan maH! taHjaj!</span></b><br=
>
"Remain Klingon!"</span></p>
<p class=3D"m_-4185717298460169177m_-922312=
7080396294445m_7081311252955621788m_-6972055849190419467MsoPlainText"><span=
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">=C2=A0</span></p>
<p class=3D"m_-4185717298460169177m_-922312=
7080396294445m_7081311252955621788m_-6972055849190419467MsoPlainText"><span=
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">Thanks,</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-=
size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Vorag=
h</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-=
size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">=C2=
=A0</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-=
size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">-----=
-------------------------<wbr>------------------------------<wbr>----------=
--------------------<wbr>--------------------
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b>=
<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"=
>
De'vID<br>
<br>
</span></p>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Get to
practising, then. The line
you're listening for
is=C2=A0{DevwI''a'pu&=
#39;, Hov
tIbejchoH}, subtitled "<span=
style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;background:#fafafa">Great
leaders, look to the stars"=
;.</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"h=
ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DNZEQVw3uV9M" target=3D"_blank"><span style=
=3D"font-size:9.5pt">https://www.youtube.com/watch?<wbr>v=3DNZEQVw3uV9M</sp=
an></a>=C2=A0</p>
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