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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Marc Okrand talking about DSC (spoilerfree)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (De'vID)
Thu Sep 28 05:00:00 2017

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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2017 01:59:21 +0200
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On 28 September 2017 at 01:08, Felix Malmenbeck <felixm@kth.se> wrote:
>
> I also don't don't really think that reason (1) holds up, considering {wo'
> DevtaHjaj ghawran} is explicitly stated not to be a toast, in contrast with
> {wo' ghawran DevtaHjaj}.
>
> It's also worth noting that paq'batlh contains two similar sentences (one
> of which is repeated three times). I'm generally very suspicious towards
> paq'batlh, in part because it is meant to be an old and poetic text, but
> mostly because we know it contains a lot of oddities.
>
> The sentences are listed here:
>
> http://www.klingonwiki.net/En/PaqbatlhNewRules#A_2._Verb_45suffix_7_43_jaj
>
It's also worth noting that every exception has been with {-taH}, and never
with {-pu'}, {-ta'}, or {-lI'}.

Can I say {wo' DevlI'jaj ghawran}, if I don't like him? :-)

(This reminds me of the bumper stickers which say "Pray for [some
politician] - Psalm 109:8". That verse says "Let his days be few, and let
another take his office".)

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te">On 28 September 2017 at 01:08, Felix Malmenbeck <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:felixm@kth.se" target=3D"_blank">felixm@kth.se</a>&gt;</sp=
an> wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bord=
er-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-siz=
e:12pt;color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;font-family:Calibri,Arial,Hel=
vetica,sans-serif">
<p><span style=3D"background-color:white">I also don&#39;t don&#39;t really=
 think that reason (1) holds up, considering {wo&#39; DevtaHjaj ghawran} is=
 explicitly stated not to be a toast, in contrast with {wo&#39; ghawran Dev=
taHjaj}.</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"background-color:white">It&#39;s also worth noting that p=
aq&#39;batlh contains two similar sentences (one of which is repeated three=
 times). I&#39;m generally very suspicious towards paq&#39;batlh, in part b=
ecause it is meant to be an old and poetic text,
 but mostly because we know it contains a lot of oddities.</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"background-color:white">The sentences are listed here: </=
span></p>
<p><span style=3D"background-color:white"><a href=3D"http://www.klingonwiki=
.net/En/PaqbatlhNewRules#A_2._Verb_45suffix_7_43_jaj" target=3D"_blank">htt=
p://www.klingonwiki.net/En/<wbr>PaqbatlhNewRules#A_2._Verb_<wbr>45suffix_7_=
43_jaj</a></span></p></div></blockquote></div><div>It&#39;s also worth noti=
ng that every exception has been with {-taH}, and never with {-pu&#39;}, {-=
ta&#39;}, or {-lI&#39;}.</div><div><br></div><div>Can I say {wo&#39; DevlI&=
#39;jaj ghawran}, if I don&#39;t like him? :-)</div><div><br></div><div>(Th=
is reminds me of the bumper stickers which say &quot;Pray for [some politic=
ian] - Psalm 109:8&quot;. That verse says &quot;Let his days be few, and le=
t another take his office&quot;.)</div><div><br></div>-- <br><div class=3D"=
gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature">De&#39;vID</div>
</div></div>

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