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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Is this correct ?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (SuStel)
Tue Sep 26 11:37:36 2017
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On 9/26/2017 11:33 AM, nIqolay Q wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 10:47 AM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com
> <mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>
> I agree. The original sentence {jeSlaH ghoj neHbogh nuvpu'} seemed
> weird to me too, with my original confusion being whether the {nuvpu'}
> could be the subject of the {jeSlaH}, since it was so far away from
> it.
>
>
> Why not? It wouldn't be any further away from the verb than it would
> be in a more usual relative clause that didn't have a sentence as
> object, like {jeSlaH yuch neHbogh nuvpu'} "The people who want
> chocolate can participate."
The sense of distance comes, not from the number of words, but from the
fact that you've got a sentence-as-object inside a relative clause
before you ever get to the subject of the original verb. That's a lot
of grammar to parse mentally before you find out what it is you're even
talking about.
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/26/2017 11:33 AM, nIqolay Q wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 10:47 AM,
mayqel qunenoS <span dir="ltr"><<a
href="mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com" target="_blank"
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</span>I agree. The original sentence {jeSlaH ghoj neHbogh
nuvpu'} seemed<br>
weird to me too, with my original confusion being whether
the {nuvpu'}<br>
could be the subject of the {jeSlaH}, since it was so far
away from<br>
it.<br>
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<div class="gmail_extra">Why not? It wouldn't be any further away
from the verb than it would be in a more usual relative clause
that didn't have a sentence as object, like {jeSlaH yuch neHbogh
nuvpu'} "The people who want chocolate can participate."</div>
</blockquote>
<p>The sense of distance comes, not from the number of words, but
from the fact that you've got a sentence-as-object inside a
relative clause before you ever get to the subject of the
original verb. That's a lot of grammar to parse mentally before
you find out what it is you're even talking about.<br>
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