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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Making someone do something to someone/something
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (SuStel)
Thu Sep 21 05:16:47 2017
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Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 09:30:50 -0400
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On 9/18/2017 4:47 AM, Aurélie Demonchaux wrote:
> So as I understand the most correct way in those cases can be
> summarized as below:
>
> < Subject 1> causes <Subject 2> to <verb> <direct object>
> becomes
> < Subject 2>-vaD <direct object> <verb>-moH < Subject 1>
Don't say Subject 1 and Subject 2. You'll just drive yourself crazy.
There is only one subject, and it is the word at the end. Semantics is
much more important than syntax here. Say something like this instead:
causer, causee, and patient (thing acted upon).
<causer> causes <causee> to <verb> <patient>
<causee>vaD <patient> <verb>moH <causer>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/18/2017 4:47 AM, Aurélie
Demonchaux wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAEr0j+SEJWgsyeVFfCEjinp5oHcjTe=p+KUjuVA4qLQ_Hp_uEg@mail.gmail.com">
<div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, helvetica,
sans-serif">So as I understand the most correct way in those
cases can be summarized as below:</font></div>
<div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, helvetica,
sans-serif"><br>
</font></div>
<div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, helvetica,
sans-serif">< Subject 1> causes <Subject 2> to
<verb> <direct object></font></div>
<div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, helvetica,
sans-serif">becomes</font></div>
<div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, helvetica,
sans-serif">< Subject 2>-vaD <direct object>
<verb>-moH < Subject 1></font></div>
</blockquote>
<p>Don't say Subject 1 and Subject 2. You'll just drive yourself
crazy. There is only one subject, and it is the word at the end.
Semantics is much more important than syntax here. Say something
like this instead: causer, causee, and patient (thing acted upon).<br>
</p>
<p><causer> causes <causee> to <verb>
<patient><br>
<causee>vaD <patient> <verb>moH <causer><br>
</p>
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